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Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Ron Paul's Jeremiah Wright

Where does Ron Paul get his anti-Israel ideas? Apparently from a University of Chicago professor named Robert Pape.
But where did Paul get this idea? We learn exactly from whom in the next paragraph:
Robert Pape has extensively researched this issue and goes in depth in his book “Cutting the Fuse: The Explosion of Global Suicide Terrorism and How to Stop It.” In fact, of 2,200 incidents of suicide attacks he has studied worldwide since 1980, 95 percent were in response to foreign occupation.
It is essential to take note of the fact that the primary support for Paul’s belief concerning blowback comes from Robert Pape. The problem for Paul here is that by most accounts, Pape is an agenda-driven pseudo-scholar whose works and “studies” have been thoroughly debunked by several other scholars.
Here's an interview with Pape. The part that relates to Israel starts around the 8:00 mark.

Let's go to the videotape.



When Pape makes his claims about Lebanon, he conveniently 'forgets' the suicide attack that murdered Rafik al-Hariri in 2005. He also doesn't define 'occupation,' and given that most 'Palestinians' consider any Jewish presence in the Levant as 'occupation' and therefore his position (and Paul's - you can hear Paul's positions in Pape's words) is untenable for Israel.

But Pape is likely Paul's intellectual guide, just like Wright was Obama's.

Read the whole thing.

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7 Comments:

At 6:04 PM, Blogger Moriah said...

I see a State Dept nominee for the mad doctor, G-d forbid he make it into the White House...

 
At 6:05 PM, Blogger Jas Dal said...

"...Where does Ron Paul get his anti-Israel ideas? ..."
- You may be familiar with the logical concepts of pre-supposition and false assumption.

You are guilty of both errors here. Errors, of course, are un-intentional. Intentional errors have another name.

Ron Paul has anti-Israel ideas? No. He has pro-US ideas. He has anti-foreign-aid-to-all-countries ideas. Is that what you mean by "anti-Israel"?

So not being "anti-Israel" means you have to continue giving $3 Billion a year in Israel-welfare? And giving $12 Billion to Israel's "enemies". Some friend! .

Grow up, Israel. Be self-reliant and self-determining. Your reliance on continual US charity is violating your Zionist principles. End this shameful foreign welfare.

Instead of accusing principled men like Ron Paul of racism, just learn to say "no" to Israel's lack of shame for being on the US dole.

 
At 7:09 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

This man's position is completely discredited (pre-emptively!) by Winston Churchill's River War about Sudan. The Brits got out in the late 1800s. The Ottoman Turks and Egyptians started up the slave trade again. The Jihadis slaughtered up and down the Nile through Sudan. No Brits in sight. No Jews. No Israel. No #Occupation. Just slaughter and terrorism. These people like Pape sound so ignorant acting like the world started yesterday and that all this stuff that goes on is new. The reason people keep interfering in that region is because of the behavior described in River War. Because of the slaughter, starvation, etc. The West has plenty of our own oil, energy, food, etc. so to think that people who intervene actually want to live in or imperial over those places is absolutely absurd.

 
At 11:37 PM, Blogger Juniper in the Desert said...

As for some reason I can no longer play videos on my computer, I can only comment on the text.
When this person says: "95 percent were in response to foreign occupation".. and offers no proof of actual foreign occupation - what about the London tube suicide-bombings, are we Brits occupying our own country??
I would not bother to even read the next word of his!!

 
At 11:59 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

Jas Dal, I don't think it is to do with Israel at all. And it isn't about race. It's more about whether the U.S. can sit back and let these countries, tribes, etc. have at it, slaughtering each other without trying to stop it. Think Rawanda... Clinton sat it out, as Ron Paul wants to do. Slaughter uniterrupted. Then think Sudan, whose slaughtering ways the Dems tried to beat Bush over the head with. But Bush actually did something constructive by creating a political buffer (initiating "South Sudan" - BTW I saw a notice from Danny Ayalon this morning that Israel just assigned an ambassador to South Sudan!), with the Dems giving no support, credit, help, ideas, etc. Dead, slaved, and starved people are what result from what people like Jas Dal advocate. BTW, we're lucky to have Israel as a friend because a lot of the fabulous technology progress going on in the West is a result of the U.S. and Israel teaming up to keep moving forward.

 
At 12:39 AM, Blogger ais cotten19 said...

Hi Jas Dal.

Friends stick up for each other.

Ron Paul won't stick up for Israel against Iran.

Most Americans, and many Jews, want a president that considers Israel a friend of the USA.

You should be able to understand this logic.

 
At 3:42 AM, Blogger BH in Iowa said...

Yeah if Paul gets elected (he won't) there may actually be one positive result..... Aliyah from the US would skyrocket!

 

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