Can you imagine what would happen if an Israeli consulate in the US did this?
On Friday, US consulate personnel from 'east' Jerusalem showed up at the Israeli encampment in Samaria known as Adei Ad to 'investigate' the alleged uprooting of trees by local residents. The consulate personnel were accompanying 'Palestinians.' They did not coordinate their visit with the Israeli security forces (as is the accepted protocol) and when the residents started throwing stones at them, at least one consulate security guard pulled a shotgun and an M-16 rifle.
An Israeli police spokeswoman said the delegation arrived at Adei Ad in U.S. diplomatic cars without first having coordinated the visit with Israeli authorities. She said the purpose of the trip was to inspect nearby trees that had been uprooted in what their Palestinian owners suspect was vandalism by Jewish settlers.
"Rocks were thrown at them by residents of Adei Ad. We are investigating. Arrests have yet to be made," the spokeswoman said. She said she did not know of any damage to the vehicles and had no further information on the delegates' identities.
An Adei Ad resident who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity said that he had not witnessed the incident but had been told by fellow settlers who were involved that the U.S. delegates came within 50 yards (metres) of the settlement in two diplomatic cars accompanied by local Palestinians.
The resident said several settlers went out to confront the group. He declined to confirm or deny that the settlers threw stones, but said two armed diplomatic guards briefly emerged from the cars.
"One had a pistol, the other an M-16, and they pointed them at the settlers," the resident said.
Asked about this account, the Israeli police spokeswoman said: "We have no indication that anyone in the U.S. delegation brandished weapons."
Can you imagine if the Israeli embassy sent someone to investigate alleged vandalism (against Israeli citizens - here the 'Palestinians' may not have been American citizens) in the US? Everyone involved would be immediately declared persona non grata. And that's exactly what the revenants would like to see happen.
Acting Head of the Samaria Regional Council, Yossi Dagan, has filed a
request to the Minister of the Interior Gilad Erdan demanding he
immediately expel the American Consulate staff members who entered the
Samaria village of Adei Ad Friday and threatened Israeli Jews with an M-16.
"As revealed through Wikileaks few years ago, these supposed
'officials' are intelligence agents and spies in every respect," said
Dagan, adding "this time, they went too far and participated in a
provocative tour with the Palestinians in the southern
Samaria and north Binyamin, without any coordination as required with
the IDF and police, and pulled out a firearm and threatened Israeli
civilians."
"This is a crossing of all red lines," he continued. "This event
could have descended easily into bloodshed and only as a result of the
settlers' responsible behavior was [a scenario like that] prevented."
"I request that in view of the serious and criminal conduct, that
these [US] security guards and officials be deported," he added.
"If Israeli intelligence officials and armed Israeli security
guards stationed in one of the Israeli consulates in the United States
had participated in a political provocation without any coordination
with the police and threatened American citizens with weapons, at best,
they would be arrested and deported, and the more likely case would be
them spending several years in federal prison."
Indeed they would. The hostility of the 'east' Jerusalem consulate to Israel is well-known and this is not the first incident involving consulate personnel overstepping their bounds. It will be interesting to see what is said at the State Department briefing on Monday about this incident (there has not been a briefing since last Tuesday). But if the US makes a fuss out of this, Israel should push back hard.
Children shall not be put to death over the sins of their fathers and fathers over the sins of their children?
A 45-year old mother from Beit Shemesh has been arrested in an effort to pressure her teenaged son to confess to involvement in 'price tag' attacks.
The woman's son was arrested on Friday near Elad on suspicion of
conspiracy to commit a crime, police said, after he and other youths
were found carrying nails and hammers.
Police arrested the teens, claiming possession of the building
materials constituted conspiracy to commit a "price tag" attack.
Attorney Itamar Ben-Gvir, rights lawyer and advocate for the rights
group Honenu, is representing both defendants. Ben-Gvir has already
appealed on the youth's behalf to the District Court, demanding that the
young man be released tomorrow if there is still no progress in the
investigation.
"The system is losing its senses," family members stated, following
the mother's arrest. "Just last week there were a number of attacks and a
Jewish teenage girl [Shelly Dadon - ed.] was murdered - and instead of
fighting the real enemy they are wasting their time on good Jews."
"It is time to differentiate between friend and enemy," they added.
Ben-Gvir also spoke about the arrest, deriding police forces for harping on petty allegations.
"The court ruled today that if there is no progress in the
investigation than the son must be released," he stated. "The police
have decided to make a drama out of the courtroom. Worst of all is the
pressure they put on the youth when he sees his mother arrested, which
encourages him to make a false confession."
In the Jewish state 66 years on, the edict that parents not be punished for their children's sins, and vice versa, is somehow forgotten....
Still waiting for the Leftist Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) to speak up about this. For God's sake, it's vandalism, not terrorism.
The cars were reportedly set on fire during the night, and sprayed onto a
wall near the village was a message to the US Secretary of State John
Kerry, saying "Regards to Kerry. to be continued."
Meretz MK Zany Zehava Gal-On thinks this is terrorism.
After the overnight vandalism, Meretz head Zahava Gal'on urged leaders to deem 'Price tag' attacks as acts of terrorism.
The
attacks "constitute further evidence for the recent escalation price
tag actions, and the urgent need to define them as terrorism
immediately.
Really? How many people were killed? How many people were injured? How many people did they try to kill or injure?
It's property damage - vandalism. But terrorism? Save that inflammatory term for the real thing, R"L (God Save us).
Muslims desecrate Meorath HaMachpeila (Cave of the Patriarchs), no one calls it terrorism, UNESCO not found
Muslim worshipers at the Machpeila cave in Hebron destroyed two mezuzoth (parchment scrolls that Jews affix to the doorposts of their buildings) over the weekend. So far, no one has called it terrorism. UNESCO, which wanted to declare the Machpeila cave a heritage site in a bid to prevent Jews from going there, has been silent. Only a few rabbis are protesting.
Rabbi Eli Ben Dahan, who serves as Deputy Religious Affairs Minister
and Supervisor of Holy Sites, visited the Cave of the Patriarchs in
Hevron after receiving reports of the vandalism.’‘
Jewish worshipers who arrived at the site after Muslim prayers on Friday were horrified to find widespread desecration of the holy tomb.
Two mezuzahs – the cases containing Jewish holy scriptures affixed to
the doorpost, and the scriptures contained therein – had been torn off
and stone. A third was damaged.
The Muslim worshipers had also hurled mud
and garbage around the site – Judaism’s second holiest, after the
Temple Mount – where the Biblical patriarchs and matriarchs, Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob, Sarah, Rebecca and Leah lie interred.
“This vandalism must be condemned by the heads of state,” Rabbi Ben
Dahan told journalists. “Our forefathers are here, and the matriarchs!
As a Jew, I call [on the public] to avoid silence and to protest this
‘price tag’.”
George Orwell would be proud: Vandals are 'terrorists' but stone throwers are not
George Orwell would be proud of the modern state of Israel. Our Defense Minister has now decided to treat vandals as terrorists (so long as they put the word 'price tag' on their artwork), but stone throwers continue to be treated as non-violent protesters.
Planning and carrying out “price tag” attacks
in Israel will now be defined as “illegal organizing,” which puts the
acts on the same level as Islamic terror groups.
The new designation announced Monday by
Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon means that the Jewish perpetrators
of such violence would face the same legal repercussions as Palestinian
terrorists.
The new designation will allow Israeli
security services and police to hold suspects in jail longer, keep them
under arrest until the end of legal proceedings and investigate without
the presence of an attorney. Those who plan and fund price tag attacks
will be subject to the same proceedings.
“Price tag perpetrators’ conduct is identical
to the conduct of modern terrorist groups, including ideological
inspiration and covert action,” the Defense Ministry said in a
statement. “Its main objective is to prevent the legitimate Israeli
government from carrying out actions, whether of state or regarding law
enforcement, and to sow fear among the nation’s leaders of making
decisions of one kind or another.”
Identical to terrorist groups? Really? How many people have died in price tag attacks? What law enforcement is prevented by graffiti scrawled on buildings? Yes, if someone burns a car they ought to have to pay, but that doesn't require designating them terrorists. Next thing you know, we'll have a new thought crime called 'Islamophobia.' Oh wait... You mean they have that in the US already.
Hot off her attempt to 'get' the Haredim by declaring discrimination against women to be a crime, Justice Minister Tzipi Livni now wants to go after her other favorite group, the 'settlers.' Livni wants to declare 'price tag attacks,' which in other countries would be termed vandalism, to be terror attacks.
In a statement issued by Livni and Aharonovitch’s offices
Thursday night, the ministries said that in regards to price-tag attacks,
Aharonovitch, Livni and Weinstein “see eye to eye on the need for more serious
steps to be taken, including making sure law enforcement have the tools at hand
to deal with the criminals responsible.”
They also said that they “see
with severity the seeping of price-tag attacks into Israel, and the danger
inherent in damaging relations with Arab Israelis.”
Participants at the
meeting discussed harsher steps to deter such incidents, including legally
defining “price-tag” incidents as acts of terror, according to political
sources.
In the past, Weinstein has opposed such a legal definition, but
according to sources, he is weighing shifting that opinion, given that the legal
tools available have not been able to halt the price-tag incidents.
Livni
and Aharonovitch will hold a follow-up meeting on the matter in the near
future.
Morons. Declaring vandalism to be terrorism in Israel is a sure way to ensure that no one takes our claims about terrorism seriously.
Vandalism (and assault) at the World's oldest Jewish cemetery
JPost is spot-on in this editorial about the World's oldest Jewish cemetery: The Mount of Olives.
It is not difficult to imagine the deafening outcry that would have arisen had
Jewish stone-throwers attacked Arab mourners and visitors to a major cemetery.
The chorus of condemnation would have become shriller yet, had the attacks not
been isolated but daily harassment and outright physical endangerment.
It
is safe to assume that the violent assailants would have been castigated as
despicable racists and that all-out manhunts would have been mounted to
apprehend them.
But as it happens, the assailants are Arab while the
mourners and visitors are Jewish. Hence there is no outcry, no condemnation, no
manhunts and the word “racist” is on nobody’s lips. No one talks about the
regular predations on Jews trying to reach Jerusalem’s ancient Mount of Olives
Cemetery, regarded by many as the second holiest Jewish site anywhere.
It
is almost as if brutal onslaughts and lynching attempts against Jews are only to
be expected and even accepted as the norm.
It is a sad testament to an
even sadder state of affairs that Diaspora Jews feel obliged to take action to
preserve the world’s largest Jewish cemetery, while successive Israeli
governments serially fail to stem lawlessness, vandalism and neglect
there.
A particularly heinous attack of vandalism against a religious site near Shchem (Nablus) is being ignored. If an attack like this one, which included the spreading of human and animal waste on the floor of a holy site, had been perpetrated against a mosque, you would have read about it in every mainstream publication, and it might have even been mentioned in the daily White House or State Department briefings. But this attack was perpetrated against a Jewish site, Joseph's tomb (the picture above is from a previous instance), and so the closest it gets to the mainstream media - let alone the White House or the State Department - is Arutz Sheva (Hat Tip: MFS - The Other News).
Visitors to the Tomb of Yosef in Shechem were shocked to discover
Wednesday night yet another instance of major Arab vandalism to the holy
site. Arabs trashed furniture, destroyed books, and defaced the site
with anti-Semitic graffiti, and there was evidence that they had tried
to burn the structure down. In addition, human and animal waste was
found all over the floor of the site.
Mesika joined with more than 2,500 other
people Wednesday night who visited the site. The visit was organized by
the Samaria Regional Council and the Shechem Echad organization, and the
visitors were accompanied by IDF soldiers and police. Accompanying
Mesika to the site was the Admor m'Rachlov.
Samaria Council Chairman Gershon Mesika
called IDF officials to express his shock at the damage. “Only
barbarians are capable of doing terrible things like this, destroying a
holy place,” said Mesika. The State of Israel must reclaim the Tomb of
Yosef, as described in the Oslo Accords. We must return with strength
and faith and reestablish our presence, and that yeshiva, at the Tomb,”
he said.
Deputy Council Director Yossi Dagan
pointed a finger of blame at the PA police who are supposed to be
guarding the site. “The Palestinian terrorist police are responsible for
the site when IDF soldiers are not present. They have proven a long
time ago that they have lost all semblance of humanity. These are the
terrorists in uniforms who murdered Yosef Ben Livnat h”yd, and now they
dump their waste and try to burn down the Tomb.”
The large crowd of Jews that had arrived
to worship were forced to wait outside for long minutes as soldiers and
police cleaned up the site.
Aren't you glad that Israel turned over control of Jewish holy sites to the kind, caring 'Palestinians'? Doesn't this encourage you to want to do it again?
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu condemned the attack, calling the assailants "intolerant and irresponsible lawbreakers" and said they would be brought to justice.
"Condemnation is not enough," said Abbas. He [Netanyahu] must stop this aggression against our places of worship and people by holding those who perpetrate these acts accountable," Abbas's spokesman Nabil Abu Rdaineh said.
If you read the whole thing, you will see that Israeli officialdom across the board has condemned the attack. But that's not enough says Abu Mazen. The 'Palestinians' want someone arrested and convicted of the crime, and thrown in jail. Whether or not they did it. Just like in 'Palestine.'
A mosque was vandalized overnight and the media and the politicians are rushing to blame the revenants, with one government minister going so far as to call it 'terrorism.'
"Price tag" assailants burned a mosque in Jab'a village, near Ramallah sometime overnight Monday, police said Tuesday.
The attackers also sprayed graffiti on the mosque, including the words "Ulpana war," indicating that this was a price tag attack- an act of violence by right-wing activists against Arabs aimed at deterring Israeli leadership from acting against the settlement enterprise.
Except, of course, that there is no proof that the 'settlers' did it, nor has there been proof in the past that most of these attacks were carried out by 'settlers.' In fact, at least one such attack was proven to have been carried out by Muslims. But now that JPost has morphed into Haaretz lite, anything is possible.
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu condemned the attack, calling the assailants "intolerant and irresponsible lawbreakers" and said they would be brought to justice.
Defense Minister Ehud Barak strongly also spoke out against the attack, calling it a "criminal act" and promising a swift response by the IDF.
"This is a grave and criminal act meant to destroy the social fabric in the region and distract the IDF from its missions, which include protecting Israeli citizens in the region," Barak said. "I have instructed the IDF and security forces to act with all available means in order to capture the perpetrators and to bring them to justice."
Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon called the graffiti an act of "terror," adding that such activities harm not only Israel but also the settlement enterprise.
"Just yesterday I said at a Hasbara conference that price tag attacks are illegal, immoral, and gravely undermine the image of Israel and the settlement enterprise under the gaze of the international community," Ayalon wrote on his Facebook page. "And here, this morning, we hear about another price tag attack."
"We must not allow such acts of terrorism to continue," he said.
Terrorism? Really? How many people were killed? None. How many were wounded? None. So where is the terrorism? If this were an act of terrorism, they would have come to the mosque while it was full of people and opened fire with machine guns. That would be an act of terrorism.
Ancient Jewish graves near Awarta desecrated with praise of mass murderers
The graves of Elazar and Ithamar - the two sons of the first High Priest, Aaron - were desecrated near the Arab village of Awarta in Samaria, along with the graves of the 70 Elders who acted as a court/legislature when the Jews entered Israel. The graves were desecrated with slogans praising the mass murderers Hakim and Amjad Awad, who murdered five members of the Fogel family in the nearby Jewish town of Itamar. The Awad's used to live in Awarta.
Recently, official 'Palestinian Authority' television - operated by our 'moderate' 'peace partner' - praised the Awads.
Britain's conservative government just doesn't get it
In the face of all the evidence to the contrary, British Foreign Secretary William Hague said last week that 'freedom is flowering' in the Arab spring.
Electoral success by parties rooted in Islam has led some to fear that change may be for the worse. But to say that Arab Spring has turned into cold winter is wrong. Such pessimism misses the extraordinary opportunities that popular demand for freedom and dignity bring, and could lead us to disengage at a time when we need to redouble our diplomatic and long-term support to the region.
The Arab Spring was always going to be a long process, not an instant fix. It was bound to take different forms in each country. The staging of genuine elections in countries that have been denied them for decades is significant. But it is what happens after elections that will determine success or failure.
The new governments in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya face enormous challenges as well as sky-high expectations from their people. Having paid a high price for their revolutions, they expect tangible improvements in daily life. As Eastern Europe after 1989 showed, this takes time.
It will be interesting to see what happens when these people discover that they have simply traded one stifling dictatorship for another (that may well be worse).
Acknowledging that governments always have to find some compromises between pragmatism and morality, it nevertheless seems that this government is finding it particularly difficult to locate a balance – and even harder to locate the consistency without which almost any efforts in the region are doomed.
Anyhow – doubtless this is all terribly pessimistic. Fortunately in his Times piece Mr Hague riffs on all the ‘positive’ things that those straw-man ‘pessimists’ keep ignoring. Perhaps simple ‘optimism’ is the foreign policy we’ve all been waiting for. So regarding the wider events Hague writes, ‘On the positive side, Tunisia has its first democratically elected parliament since the 1950s, with 24 per cent of the seats held by women’.
True. But then, on the negative side is the fact that the party of the Muslim Brotherhood (Ennahda) won the most seats. One might also add that on January 5th when the leader of the terrorist group Hamas arrived in Tunis (strange choice for such an early visit?) he was greeted by a couple of thousand supporters of the Ennahda party welcoming him with, among other familiar theme tunes, the chant: ‘Kill the Jews’. Anyhow – nobody wants to be a pessimist, so back to the bright side.
Mr Hague informs us of the ‘positive’ fact that ‘Turnout in the first phase of Egypt’s elections was above 60 per cent, compared with 23 per cent in the 2005 elections under the Mubarak regime’. True, that’s a wonderful upsurge in voter turnout. I’m simply not sure this ‘positive’ of increased turnout trumps the ‘negative’ fact that the parties which have been rushed into power are the Islamist parties. Nor, it seems to me, does it over-ride the fact that since March last year more than 100,000 Coptic Christian Egyptians have fled the country. Mr Hague finds an attempt to soften all this. For instance he describes the electoral success of ‘parties rooted in Islam’ and parties ‘drawing their inspiration from Islam’. Yet that is not the case. The Muslim Brotherhood parties coming to power across the region draw their inspiration from violent Islam, political Islam, and totalitarian Islam. For instance the ‘Freedom and Justice Party’ has already committed to withdraw Egypt from the major conventions protecting the rights of women. It is wrong to present them as Islamic versions of the Christian Democratic Union.
But Hague isn't the only British politician to ignore facts. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg is also in the running for the dumbest statement of the week.
British Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are "deliberate vandalism," underlining the UK government's hardening line, British The Jewish Chronicle reported Monday.
Speaking alongside Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit to the UK, Clegg condemned continuous settlement building in the "strongest possible terms."
Vandalism? What exactly are the 'settlements' (whose construction is far from continuous and only within their existent borders) 'vadalizing'? Arutz Sheva reports that Clegg even tried to explain.
Clegg justified his rhetoric and was quoted by the London Jewish Chronicle as saying, "Once you've placed physical facts on the ground that make it impossible to deliver something that everyone has for years agreed is the ultimate destination [peace via a two-state solution] ... it is an act of deliberate vandalism to the basic premise on which negotiations have taken place for years and years and years. And that is why we have expressed our concerns as a government."
But 'everyone' does not agree, including both of the parties. And as Arutz Sheva points out, the 'negotiations' are not really negotiations.
The peace process has evolved not a long and drawn out diplomatic attempt to grant the Palestinian Authority all of its territorial and political demands under the guise of “negotiations” but which are in essence an ultimatum to Israel. The Palestinian Authority has said that if Israel does agree to its terms, it will make another attempt to win recognition on its terms by appealing directly to the United Nations.
I would suggest strongly that Clegg examine closely what George Brown - Britain's Foreign Secretary at the time that Resolution 242 passed - and Lord Caradan, a Briton who was the chief author of that resolution, had to say about it. They certainly would not take the position that 'everyone' agrees that the solution is a 'Palestinian state' along the 1949 armistice lines.
Video of vandalism at World's oldest and largest functioning cemetery
Here's video of an Arab vandal at the Mount of Olives, the World's oldest and largest functioning cemetery.
Let's go to the videotape. More below the fold.
This took place on November 29, and the Arab, who was caught red-handed, was sentenced to three months in jail. He admitted that he was paid NIS 1,000 to commit the vandalism.
Avrohom Lubinsky, the founding Chair of the International Committee for the Preservation of Har Hazeitim, wasn't surprised by the footage, as the vandalism has been going on for some time already.
“This video clip is only one example of the rampant vandalism that continues to plague Har Hazeitim", explains Lubinsky, "It was the first time that such vandalism was captured by some of the new surveillance cameras installed on Har Hazeitim. Unfortunately, these acts as well as the frequent stoning of mourners and visitors continue in areas where there are still no cameras and points to the urgent need of deploying a police garrison immediately."
"This is not a freak occurrence", added Charley J. Levine, adviser to the Preservation Committee in Israel, "This sort of vicious vandalism and desecration occurs at Har Hazeitim every single day, some orchestrated and some spontaneous. It is a shame of enormous proportion that this takes place at the oldest and largest Jewish cemetery in the entire world!"
The International Committee for the Preservation of Har Hazeitim serves as a watchdog group urging the powers that be to implement and maintain positive, sustainable measures regarding a wide range of issues plaguing Har Hazeitim, the oldest and largest Jewish cemetery in the world. "We are urging the Knesset to urgently pass legislation calling for stiff mandatory sentences for crimes committed in cemeteries", says Lubinsky, "The criminal in the clip was paid NIS 1,000 for his actions and sentenced to only three months in prison. In most Western countries and in a majority of the United States there is specific legislation mandating stiff jail sentences for desecrating a grave. For example, in New York State the sentence would have been 2 ½ - 4 years. In Florida up to 15 years. The total disregard for law, including the illegal expansion of the Ras al Amud Mosque, must stop.” Top leadership of the International Committee for the Preservation of Har Hazeitim includes Malcolm Hoenlein, the heads of major American and Israeli-based Jewish organizations, and an active Jerusalem-based Steering Committee (Israel branch of the ICPHH).
But I'm sure that if we gave the 'Palestinians' control of the Mount of Olives, this kind of vandalism would stop, wouldn't it? Not likely....
Christian and Muslim cemeteries vandalized in Jaffa; UPDATED
Jaffa's Christian and Muslim cemeteries were vandalized over Yom Kippur and at least one grave had the words tag mchir (price tag) written on it (picture at the link). Tag mchir is a reference to attacks in response to the destruction of Jewish cities and towns in Judea and Samaria. Given that it was Yom Kippur, it is unlikely that most of Israel's Right would be involved in this, and in fact, Israel Radio says that slogans praising the Maccabi Haifa soccer team were found at the site and that the police believe that teenage vandals are responsible. But that didn't stop YNet from printing a story headlined "'Price tag operation' in the heart of Israel"? I've screen capped the headline below in case they change it.
Some 25 tombstones were vandalized at two Jaffa cemeteries belonging to Muslims and Christians. The messages “Death to Arabs” and “Price tag” were spray painted on the graves.
Police forces arrived at the site and launched an investigation into the incident, but no suspects had been arrested for the time being. The acts prompted Jaffa residents to hold an emotional rally on Jaffa's streets Saturday evening.
President Shimon Peres condemned the vandalism acts at Jaffa’s Christian and Muslim cemeteries, referring to them as “despicable acts that disgrace us and contradict the moral values of Israeli society.”
The president urged law enforcement officials to undertake the utmost efforts in order to nab the vandals.
It's funny how they claim that the law isn't being enforced regarding 'price tag' attacks. The last I heard, the kid who is suspected of setting fire to the mosque last week is still in jail.
UPDATE SUNDAY 12:06 AM
Israel Radio reports that the graffiti has been there for a week, that the police have yet to examine the area in daylight and that there were no gravestones broken.
UPDATE SUNDAY 12:14 AM
A Jaffa synagogue was firebombed on Saturday night in apparent response to the cemetery incident.
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