Anti-Semites at Mondoweiss blame 'right-wing Zionists' for Norwegian massacre
The anti-Semites at Mondoweiss have found a way to blame the An examination of Breivik's views, and his support for far-right European political movements, makes it clear that only by interrogating the nexus of Islamophobia and right-wing Zionism can one understand the political beliefs behind the terrorist attack.Amman-based blogger Alex Kane then goes on to give a list of examples of Breivik's ideology, which included a total of two mentions of Israel, one of which described the ideology of the 'Vienna school of thought' which clearly was not Breivik's invention. The other comment said
Breivik is apparently an avid fan of U.S.-based anti-Muslim activists such as Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and Daniel Pipes, and has repeatedly professed his ardent support for Israel. Breivik's political ideology is illuminated by looking at comments he posted to the right-wing site document.no, which author and journalist Doug Sanders put up.
We must therefore make sure to influence other cultural conservatives to come to our anti-rasistiske/pro-homser/pro-Israel line. When they reach this line, one can take it to the next level...(page 41)How
Oops - I forgot - saying that Hamas and Hezbullah wish to exterminate Jews makes me
Kane goes on to link 'anti-Muslim activists' with 'right-wing Zionists' as if the two are one and the same. It's one long piece of guilt by association. In Kane's book, Breivik admires the English Defense League and Geert Wilders and they both admire Israel and therefore they must all be behind Breivik's actions. And you must be anti-Muslim in Kane's book if you believe that Islam is attacking Judaism and Christianity in a 'clash of civilizations, and you are surely anti-Muslim if you opposed to the construction of the Ground Zero Mosque on the site of the World Trade Center - after all, you could not have just criticized it as being in poor taste.
Kane goes on to slander Dan Pipes some more, along with Dennis Ross and Martin Kramer. He's got it all figured out.
And why is Mondoweiss publishing this kind of scurrilous attack on the Jewish people? Because he's an
Labels: Anders Behring Brievik, anti-Semitic stereotypes, anti-Semitism, clash of civilizations, Dan Pipes, Dennis Ross, English Defence League, Martin Kramer, Mondoweiss, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer
posted by Carl in Jerusalem @ 2:39 PM
10 Comments:
And the Beatles were responsible for Charles Manson 'cause they wrote helter skelter.
Breivik despised leftist Jews and Islamists.
So do you and yours truly. That Carl - doesn't make us responsible for Breivik just because we hold the same viewpoint as him.
A wrong doesn't delegitimize a mainstream political position.
Brievik’s comments here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/
His views are clearly influenced by Robert Spencer of “Jihad Watch”, who also calls for a new “Crusade” against Islam in his books. Much of what Breivik says in online comments comes straight out of Spencer’s thinking on these issues: e.g. that the leftists/multiculturalists are the greatest threat to Western civilisation, because they are facilitating the “Islamisation” of Europe:
It’s apparent, the Crusaders against Jihad such as Spencer have created a climate of anti-Muslim/anti-leftist hatred
In these comments Breivik cites the two hate sites, Spencer’s “Jihad Watch”, and Pamela Geller’s “Atlas Shrugs”, as sites that all Europeans should read.
In these comments Breivik cites Spencer’s “Jihad Watch”, as well as Pamela Geller’s anti-Islam/anti-leftist hate-site “Atlas Shrugs”, as sites that all Europeans should read.
Brievik is also a fan of Fjordmann, (Gates of Vienna). Fjordmann’s book recommendations include:
From Page 754 of 2083 -European Deceleration of Independence:
I could also recommend some books that people should read. About Islam I recommend essentially everything written by Robert Spencer. Bat Ye’or’s
books are groundbreaking and important, though admittedly not always easy to read. The Legacy of Jihad by Andrew Bostom should be considered required reading for all
those interested in Islam. It is the best and most complete book available on the subject in English, and possibly in any language.
His manifesto contains threats of violence his thoughts are mirror images of the type of comments you find at Atlas Shrugs and Jihad Watch.
NormanF
A wrong doesn't delegitimize a mainstream political position.
No, but this is not a legitimate mainstream political position. As I said in the other thread to you, It is certainly NOT mainstream opinion even in the USA.
All of this propgoanda which inspired Brievik is coming from one source, and the funders expect their whores to parrot
"ISRAEL IS ON THE FRONT LINE OF DEFENSE"
even Jihad Watch is funded by the Horowitiz Foundation, (frontpagemag.com) which in turn gets most of it’s funds from Aubrey Chernick as well as other far right Zionists.
All of the people lauded by Briekik (Bat Yeor, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Andrew Bostom, Fjordmann, Geert Wilders) by Brievik belong to the same club, are funded by the same people and have an identical agenda, Geert Wilders is funded by Daniel Pipes organisation.
Western civilisation does not support the far right Zionist agenda. The problems in Europe are due to multiculturalism failing, and not Islam, and the problems are not unique to the Muslim communities, others have them too.
You are deluded if you think Americans, Europeans or the West will embrace those views.
Silverstein decided to get into the fun as well:
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/07/23/anders-breivik-norwegian-terror-suspect-admirer-of-israel-avigdor-lieberman/#comments
It's so good to see these bloggers practically tripping over themselves to connect Zionism and Anders. Maybe next they'll connect the genocidal Arab League to the Palestinian cause.
Whoops; I forgot that they all lack consistant moral compasses.
Norman, Weiss views on Jews and Israel are similar to those of David Duke. That should tell us all we need to know about him.
chayma
hope you note that carl, despite your wacky views, lets every one of your posts through
unlike your buds, dickie, max and mondoweiss...who moderate and delte those views not in keeping with their myopic, jew hate agenda
and please...stop cutting and pasting the same crap...why dont you read the nutjob's manifesto...geller and spencer take up a tiny portion
bacci40
hope you note that carl, despite your wacky views, lets every one of your posts through
What is your point? He let's your even more "wacky views" through too, though you cannot write properly. Oh and mine are not wacky, lots share my views.
unlike your buds, dickie, max and mondoweiss...who moderate and delte those views not in keeping with their myopic, jew hate agenda
And why are you blaming me? Am I the moderator of comments at their websites? Did I ask them not to let through "bacci40" comments? I cannot blame them though. You do little but moan about Jew hatred, coming from imaginary sources. None of the guys you mentioned are Jew haters.
And why are you bringing this up here?
You're going to have stop equating criticism of the occupation as being Jew hatred. It's not.
and please...stop cutting and pasting the same crap...why dont you read the nutjob's manifesto...geller and spencer take up a tiny portion
your real enemies are the Gellers, not the Max, or Mondoweiss "jew hater". Their vision is based on something positive. Your's and your Geller buddy's is all negative. You will see the fruits of this soon.
Now grow up, and learn to accept an opposing view like an adult and with good grace instead of seeing genocidal intentions in it. Why do you call me a Jew hater? I could retort you're a Muslim hater..
We found two comments from 2008 that he probably left on our blog.
Comments Left by Breivik
It took a heads-up from someone else beccause we were one digit off on the year he used.
The OIC has announced that Geert Wilders and Gates of Vienna are responsible for this monster, but then they've been obsessing on us and GW for several years now.
In fact, they think the Swiss minaret ban caused the rise of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. And so they press the Swiss to get rid of a law passed by referendum. They pursue the Swiss the same obsessive way they pursue the Danes for not arresting the cartoonists...
The Swiss elite assured them that the referendum would NEVER pass, and now they want them to rescind it because the Swiss "promised"...so their tactic is eternal hounding.
IOW, they truly don't 'get' the basic concept of the rule of law. Tribal law is as far as they've climbed in their ideology. If you can stand it, look at their annual reports. A slog thru obsession after obsession...
Given Hillary's latest obscene suck-up to the OIC, yeah -- I'm a little worried we might have to find a new home. Not so far, though...
Dymphana of Gates of Vienna
We found two comments from 2008 that he probably left on our blog. Comments Left by Breivik It took a heads-up from someone else beccause we were one digit off on the year he used.
You cowards! You and Fjordman. You ban all comments at your website, (Gates of Vienna) since the Anders Behring Brievik killing spree, yet you have the audacity to come here and post comments?
Your Bat Yeor, whom you cite as an authority on history and Eurabia, is no historian. The British historian Martin Gilbert was called to task for using her as a source in one of his books. It was discredited because he used her. Your call for a ban on Muslim immigration is based on a fake premise, since there are more converts than born Muslims, Islam is the fastest growing religion by conversions in Europe, not birth as you liars make out. There are more NATIVE Muslims than there are immigrants.
I'm curious to learn something, you support a Europe free from Muslims, though it was Islam that built Europe yet you “support” Israel, where 20% of the population is Muslim with civil rights (exclude the occupied territories which are under dispute).
Explain this, it doesn’t make sense to me.
Unless you hope that a Lieberman or a Kahanist will get into power in Israel and expel or kill all Muslims in Israel?
The OIC has announced that Geert Wilders and Gates of Vienna are responsible for this monster, but then they've been obsessing on us and GW for several years now.
Geert Wilders is funded by far right Zionists in the USA. Once those funds dry up, so will his support for Israel. Just like Robert Spencer’s would if his $500,000 per annum from the Horowitz Foundation dried up.
Given Hillary's latest obscene suck-up to the OIC, yeah -- I'm a little worried we might have to find a new home. Not so far, though...
What? The OIC may force you to shift web hosts? LOL, your problems are bigger than that.
Every dog has it's day..but
Tell me Dymphana, when your time is up, will you and your far right Zionist buddies rally round and support each other…… or …… will it be a case of rats leaving the sinking ship :)
Dymphana,
Ned May doesn't sound like a Norwegian name to me :)
I wonder if Charles Johnson made a mistake there? Please clarify ;)
'Counter-Jihad' Blog Calls for More Europeans to Emulate Breivik's Attacks
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38939
This is what ‘counter-jihad’ bloggers support
Charles Johnson
Wed Jul 27, 2011
One of the most hateful of the “counter-jihad” blogs is “Gates of Vienna,” where anonymous white nationalist Fjordman continues to post his screeds: Gates of Vienna.
This pit of bigotry is run by “Baron Bodissey,” whose real name is Ned May. Gates of Vienna and May are featured today in this story at CNN about their undeniable influence on the Oslo terrorist, Anders Behring Breivik:
Suspect admired bloggers who believe Europe is drowning in Muslims.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/27/norway.terror.web/
For an idea of the kind of sick thinking these people encourage and support, here’s the latest post from one of the blogs linked in their sidebar,
“The West’s Darkest Hour,”
overtly praising the Norwegian mass murderer Breivik, and calling for other Europeans to emulate his attacks: Breivik’s spectacular message « The West’s Darkest Hour. (Google cache link.)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8LEtXx9fzAcJ:chechar.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/breivik%E2%80%99s-spectacular-message/+http://chechar.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/breivik%E2%80%99s-spectacular-message/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com
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