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Monday, February 09, 2009

Gaza in Malmo

Two weeks ago, I reported on a confrontation in Malmo, Sweden between pro-Israeli and pro-terror demonstrators. On Sunday, there was another pro-Israel demonstration in Malmo, and this time the pro-terror demonstrators fired a rocket (no, I'm not kidding) on the pro-Israel demonstrators. You'll find lots about this story (including video) at the Infidel Bloggers Alliance and at Gates of Vienna.

The pro-Israel demonstrators had been isolated in a central city square to 'protect' them. Blogger Ted Ekeroth, who was present at the scene, makes an excellent point (quote from Gates of Vienna).
According to the commander of the police operation, the organizers of the manifestation wanted to seal the square off for security reasons. I, however, think that the point of the manifestation was lost when no “outsiders” could see or hear what we had to say. When you show support for something in public, you do that for a reason — for others to see and hear. This was not possible due to that the area was completely sealed of and the only ones that could hear us were the police and the hateful Arab mob. The point of a public manifestation was lost…
Danish blogger Snaphanen was also there (link in Danish, but there's a Google translate button on the side) and took several pictures, including the one at the top of this post.

Make sure to check out the links above. The Arabs apparently think that by bringing Gaza into living rooms all over Europe (and the US will be next), they will be able to convince the West to force Israel to give up. But our clenched fists show that we won't give up. No one is going to force us to commit suicide for the Muslims. And the Europeans will eventually come to understand - hopefully not too late - that we are the canary in the coal mine. The Muslims are after Europe as well.


At 9:24 AM, Blogger Findalis said...

Sweden will be Islamic within a few years. They will do nothing about this, they can do nothing about this. If they did, they would have to admit the failure of multiculturalism. And the elites of the West cannot allow that to happen.

I expect to see more and more of these attacks all over Europe and soon in the US.

At 5:31 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

If you'd care to factcheck; yes there was an aggressive atmosphere, and yes two "rockets" (FIREWORKS that is, not rockets like the ones Hamas fires into Israel) were shot off together with louder sounding illegal fireworks. To liken this to an "attack" is pure propaganda, and will only lead to more division and feed the hatred between these two groups. Everyone in both Gaza and Israel just wants peace at heart, so why not start contributing to peace instead of contributing to stirring up more hatred, violence and demonising of each other. I'm sending this comment to both sides of the conflict; jews and arabs have co-existed peacefully before and they can do it again. The peace starts in the individual. For every person who doesn't contribute and thus co-create this tension and hatred, the conflict will lessen. Search your own hearts and you will know this is true.

At 7:53 PM, Blogger tallcans said...

"The Arabs", "the Muslims".... Such generalizations are dangerous, counterproductive and racist. Your manichaean view of the problematic is a foolish obstacle to human progress.

At 8:21 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

What a ridiculous point you are making insinuating that the police had sealed of the square for other (i.e. anti-Israel) purposes than protecting this manifestation in support of Israel.
All journalists and others with peaceful intentions were let into the square and the event was covered by the major news media the same day, interviewing some of the people manifesting their support for Israel and it's rigt to exist and defend itself. In this way everyone in the country could hear their arguments, not only incidental street bypassers. The organisers thus should be very pleased and were also grateful for the police upholdning order at the event without any real confrontation, something they failed properly to do last time around.
Also, the photo you posted has nothing to with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since the banner has on it an insult towards the police, refering to them as 'pigs', related to a whole different news story in Malmö past week.

At 8:46 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

"... the only ones that could hear us were the police and the hateful Arab mob. The point of a public manifestation was lost…"

Not at all true then, quite the opposite, since journalists were reporting. The fact makes your blog post pointless, Carl in Jerusalem.

At 11:38 PM, Blogger Our Paul said...

A tad bit of perspective, to understand what Israel Matzav is attempting to accomplish. The opening statement sets the stage:

"Two weeks ago, I reported on a confrontation in Malmo, Sweden between pro-Israeli and pro-terror demonstrators."

Apparently, if one supports Palestinian self determination, or a two country solution, or wishes to protest the excesses of the Israeli Gaza incursion, one is pro-terror. It is a shell game, if we focus on Malmo, why then we do not have to consider what happened in Gaza:

"Yes, we now know the ever grimmer statistics: more than 1,400 dead Gazans (and rising as bodies are dug out of the rubble); 5,500 wounded; hundreds of children killed; 4,000 to 5,000 homes destroyed and 20,000 damaged -- 14% of all buildings in Gaza; 50,000 or more homeless; 400,000 without water; 50 U.N. facilities, 21 medical facilities, 1,500 factories and workshops, and 20 mosques reportedly damaged or destroyed; the smashed schools and university structures; the obliterated government buildings; the estimated almost two billion dollars in damage; all taking place on a blockaded strip of land 25 miles long and 4 to 7.5 miles wide that is home to a staggering 1.4 million people."

It has been said, that almost half of the children under age of two in Gaza are anemic. Not unexpected, although “blockade” sounds rather benign, it converted Gaza into a giant concentration camp, where the only goods not controlled by Israel could enter the ravished land were through the tunnels at the Egyptian boarder.

There are some in Israel that recognize the criminality of its actions, but they are a minority. It is apparent that the electorate, stimulated by this incursion into Gaza, and the previous one into Lebanon, have shifted to the right. Carl in Jerusalem should understand that it is not anti-Semitism when folks get a tad bit upset when phosphorous burning shells are casually lobbed into civilian buildings…

At 1:42 AM, Blogger wagger said...

To Anderswane:

It is obvious that the arabs that were there this Sunday had nothing to do with peace.

I was there, as I was there the 25th of January. They did fire rockets in the form of fireworks and threw two home made bombs.

How do you translate that to peace, exactly? Do you think getting a bomb in your face is a peace gesture?
Do you think singing about killing Jews in arabic is a peace gesture?

The arabs hatred towards Jews and Israel is obvious. That is the core issue - their longing to kill jews.

Just read HAmas charter, or PLO, or Fatah. They say it, the act on. Here and in Israel.

At 1:45 AM, Blogger wagger said...

It is true.

A manifestation is for the general public that is out walking that day. They should be able to hear us, hear the speeches and everything else. That is free speech, that is how it usually works.

The arguments you put forward shows that you havent really thought about it. If the journalists are there to cover it - then why not just have a meeting inside, with locked doors. Same effect, according to you?

No - the point is that a public gathering of this type is meant to show the general public where we stand, in the open!

So, Claes, your missing the point with freedom of expression and free speech.

Dont worry, you're not alone...

At 1:48 AM, Blogger Steen said...

Anders swane: There wer two rockets fires and to pipe bombs. Unfortunately I was close to the second of them.



The demonstration was ONLY "peaceful", because the 500 arabs present, was held back and out numbered by police. Otherwise it would have been sheer anarchy.

At 1:50 AM, Blogger Steen said...

CARL:What a ridiculous point you are making insinuating that the police had sealed of the square for other (i.e. anti-Israel) purposes than protecting this manifestation in support of Israel.

Were you in Malmø that day ? Everyone had to pass a police line aften inspection.

At 6:16 AM, Blogger sassinfras said...

so anyone who demostrates against israels brutal illegal policies gets branded -pro terrorist.
i find it laughable when it was the zionist who pioneered this type of warfare and created the jewish state using terrorism as it main weapon.the arabs haven't even come close, not by a long shot, when compared to the zionist in the use of terror.

At 1:18 AM, Blogger Eva said...

Carl: "Not at all true then, quite the opposite, since journalists were reportingI was on both manifestations."
Yes that would have made a huge different if the media told the thuth. However they reported that it had been quit calm (so did the police). CALM?!? With rockets fired and to pipe bombs!!! Pro-terror demostraters screaming: die jews; long live Adolf Hitler...I was there on both occations and it was not calm in any way!!!
Some pictures of the pro-terrorists from the second manifestation(notis the "man" holding the baby: http://www.photomedia.se/bildarkiv/index.php?twg_album=Nyhetsbilder/20090208_14:00_demonstration+i+Malm%25C3%25B6
And it the same all over Europe, here from London:


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