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Sunday, September 04, 2011

Rick Perry and Islam redux

Recently, I published a post about a blog war between Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs and Ace of Spades. The subject of the war was Texas Governor Rick Perry - the current frontrunner for the Republican nomination for President - and his connections with Muslims and Islam in Texas.

Iranian-born Amil Imani says that he's not concerned about Perry's Islamic connection, because the sect to which Perry is connected - the Ismailis - is a marginal sect, and because the Islamic groups that have supported terrorist organizations have all attacked Perry. Imani goes on to show that the curriculum that was the subject of the blog war is not anti-Israel. In fact, if anything, it's pro-Israel.
The facts are that Perry has indeed had a cordial relationship with Muslims. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims live in the Lone Star State. And a governor is to serve every segment of the population in accordance with the law. I grant that. But, is Governor Perry being even-handed with Muslims, as he is expected to be, or is he favoring them?

He is reported to be particularly friendly with the Ismailis, a relatively small sect of Shi’a Islam. Is there something fishy about that? There are roughly twenty to thirty thousand Ismailis who live in Texas, a small percentage of the Muslims in the state. Besides, if Perry wanted to curry favor with Muslims, why would he hitch his wagon to the Ismailis? Ismailis are persecuted and castigated by major Islamic sects such as the Sunnis who rule Saudi Arabia and the Twelve Imamates Shi’a who run Iran.

The Ismailis are hardly a significant Islamic force, as compared to the other sects. They number around fifteen million in the world and are splintered into several sects. By far the largest of the Ismaili sects is the Nizari Ismaili with its followers adhering to dual loyalties. Their spiritual allegiance is to the Imam of the Time (Imam az Zaman) who is believed to be the interlocutor between Allah and the people. The position of the Imam az Zaman is hereditary from male to male, purportedly tracing back to Muhammad. Ismailis also owe allegiance to their countries as a fundamental obligation.

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Although Perry’s cordial relationship with the Ismailis is indeed true, it hardly warrants alarm. What is more disturbing is the claim, nearly all of it originating from one source, that Governor Perry is supported by CAIR.

Facts show the contrary. There are reports that CAIR, the Islamist organization, was upset for not being invited to Perry’s Response prayer event in Houston. CAIR has teamed up with the ACLU protesting the exclusion.
And here's what Imani has to say about the Texas curriculum and Israel.
And with regards to the concern that the education curriculum Perry promoted is pro-Arab and against Israel, the evidence is exactly the opposite. The lesson on Israel reads:

“Since the end of World War One Palestine had been under the control of Great Britain, who at first welcomed the hardworking Jewish settlers. They made the most of the harsh conditions, bringing economic success to an area that had for a very long time been poor. Arab natives also welcomed the newcomers. But as the number of Jewish settlers increased and their economic success contrasted sharply with the economic backwardness of the Palestinian Arabs, the Arab attitude began to change.

Immediately, all its Arab neighbors declared war on Israel. As a result of this war, the territory of Israel expanded somewhat, and many Arab citizens of Israel fled to a small corner of Israel called the Gaza Strip. The Arab states refused to admit these refugees, preferring them to stay there as a testimony to the evil of the Jewish state. They are still there. These Arabs began calling themselves Palestinians and demanding a state of their own.”
I've said before that I do not want to declare for one Republican candidate or another right now. And with over a year to go until the election, I will stick to that. At least for now. But given what Imani has written, I will have no problem voting for Rick Perry if he is the Republican nominee. No problem at all.

Read the whole thing.

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10 Comments:

At 1:45 PM, Blogger Rick S Geiger - Call Me @585-230-5511 said...

So you should re-read what Texas uses, it states that Jews are "settlers" which is a racist term. It states the Arabs are native to the area not the Jews, that is a lie, the Jews are the indigenous people of Israel. It call the Jews refugees that perpetuates the myth that Israel was created out of the Holocaust. It does not note that Israel had already been divided by the Treat of San Remo. I could go on, so what Texas uses his anti-Jewish and historically inaccurate

 
At 2:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carl, when are you going to face reality?

 
At 4:07 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

Do you remember the photo of Bush doing the sword dance for the Saudi's? Some of these ties are made of oil... Also:

- Texans are strong. And courteous. And just don't want to hear it, if there is anything to be heard that they think is "unpleasant."

- RSG above outlines a few historical inaccuracies. And what about FGM (90+% in Egypt, for example), sharia cover enforcement, honor killing, etc etc. Is any of that discussed in the curriculum? It would be seen as "unpleasant"...

- Maybe Lt. Col. Allen West could be requested to help rework the curriculum, based on his obviously immense reading and his on-site experience.

- If Rick Perry reopens the curriculum for discussion and revision, then it could be retrievable. If he stonewalls and attacks to bury it, then NOPE.

 
At 4:12 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

BTW, if the curriculum was developed at Harvard, then this isn't a Texas initiated issue. Congressman West may have a bigger task here than just re-working the TX curriculum.

Secondly, I agree with Carl that if Perry wins the primaries, I will have no problem advocating for and voting for him against Obama.

 
At 4:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shy Guy, I missed you. Smooch ;)

Did you go to Norway to visit Brieviek?

Tch Tch...still endorsing Spencer? Oh the irony, Spencer is supposed to be rebutting Geller, and Amil Amani, when all three are spectacurly wrong about Perry.

Losers all of you! As if the President will be chosen for whether he is anti Islam or not. If he is, he won't get past the vetting stage! That would be a threat to America.

Seems like you Zionist extremists live in another world. American's do not vote for a President based on Israel's needs. Hello? Wake up losers!!

 
At 5:05 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

Wow. When people on the left side can't come up with an actual reasoned discussion (which seems to happen more and more as their dictates are tried and prove disastrous), they just call people names. Have you noticed this?

 
At 5:08 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

BTW, this issue has nothing to do with "Israel's needs". It has to do with enforcing American law in America, not developing a special category of people who don't have to comply with American law.

 
At 7:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sunlight

BTW, this issue has nothing to do with "Israel's needs". It has to do with enforcing American law in America, not developing a special category of people who don't have to comply with American law.

You talking of far right Zionists? I agree with you, they're a fifth column as more and more American's realise.

Islamophobia is a danger to the USA.


As for Muslims, Sharia law will not be banned, no matter how hard you, Daniel Pipes, Geller, Spencer, David Yerushalmi and all you other Zion extremists try.

Islam is an American religion. Your desperate ploys to keep American Muslims out of political power by pretending Sharia is incompatible with American law, will never succeed

thats why you have to fabricate lies, and a $43 million Islamophobia industry that fails to influence where you want it to.

 
At 9:53 PM, Blogger steve klein said...

Back in late September 2001, Governor Perry wrote the following in part to his fellow Texans:

"I ask that all Texans be mindful that the attacks on New York City and Washington are not the work of the Islamic faithful, but the work of terrorists – of fanatics – who have hijacked the name of religion for their campaign of hatred.....Like most of the world’s major religions, the Islamic faith preaches peace, love and tolerance. Indeed, terrorism is the antithesis of the basic tenet to which the one billion Islamic followers all over the world adhere."

Gosh, that is an awfully ill-informed statement from a governor of a great state; any state for that matter. Is there anything which indicates Mr. Perry is up to speed on Islam today? Nothing that I've seen. Is anyone privy to something I do not know?

 
At 9:55 PM, Blogger Findalis said...

I have asked Texans what they think of this. Perry didn't want to insult any of his constituents. In other words he is no supporter of Islam, no supporter of Judaism. He is a committed Christian, and a Zionist. Regardless of what Pam Geller or Robert Spenser thinks, he is not in CAIR's pocket. They just like another candidate and will do anything to destroy that person's chances.

 

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