CUFI only has 700k members? Surely that's a mistake?
Beck's whole rant was about Christian crimes against Jews, and for that crime, Palestine should not come into being. What kind of moronic thinking is this?
If this the best argument you have, well nothing more need be said.
Is Glen Beck so blinded by his 30 pieces of silver that he cannot give a damn about Palestinian Christians? Or see how riduclous he looks comparing Palestinians to Nazi's, when Israel has the strongest military in the Middle East. Did European Jews have an army? The whole rant is riduculous, and anyone who thinks this helps the Zionist cause, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Why is this tagged "Arab Genocide, and Palestinian Genocide?"
The Pew Forum on Religion has published the findings of a major survey of the opinions of Global Evangelical Protestant Leaders.
Significantly, the survey found that only 34% say they sympathize with Israel. A majority say they sympathize either with both sides equally (39%) or with neither side (13%).
Among evangelical leaders from the United States, even fewer sympathize more with Israel (30%) while nearly half (49%) say they sympathize with both sides equally.
Similarly only 48% of the evangelicals say the state of Israel is a fulfilment of biblical prophecy about the Second Coming of Jesus, while 42% say it is not. This is perhaps an indication that evangelicals are increasingly better informed about the Middle East.
I'm not sure what the Beck post has to do with this one, but 'Palestinian Christians'?
You mean like in Bethlehem where the Christian population has gone from 90% to 20% since the 'Palestinian Authority' took over in 1994 and started systematically raping Christian girls? http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2007/12/plight-of-bethlehem.html
You mean like in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity where a group of 'Palestinian' Muslim terrorists desecrated the church in the name of Islam until the IDF was able to put a stop to it? http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2006/12/olmerts-christmas-present-to-bethlehem.html
Don't go there. Glenn Beck and all the Christians on this list know exactly who is responsible for the plight of 'Palestinian' Christians. And the only ones who blame the Jews are the PA-appointed Bishop Ikrima Sabry and the late Peter Jennings' girlfriend Hanan Ashrawi. Not exactly great company.
Don't go there. Glenn Beck and all the Christians on this list know exactly who is responsible for the plight of 'Palestinian' Christians.
That would be true if Palestinian Christians themselves say it.
Have you got anything? If so bring it.
Because I can bring you plenty of sources where Palestinian Christians blame Christian Zionism for prolonging the occupation and needless suffering. Why is this movement opposed by so many Jews? and the mainstream Christian Churches?
But even from your own point of view, tell me, what good has it brought Israel? It hasn't halted the call for a two state solution, it hasn't got any embassy to shift to Jerusalem. This was at the peak of their power (CUFI) which is now declining.
I'm curious about something, when Palestine comes into being, will these Christian zionists still be your "freinds", or will they as Max Blumenthal says (and everything he has predicted about Christian Zionism has come to pass exactly as he said) become the Jews biggest enemies?
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This will be quite educational for you.
Educational? Credit us with more sense.
CUFI only has 700k members? Surely that's a mistake?
Beck's whole rant was about Christian crimes against Jews, and for that crime, Palestine should not come into being. What kind of moronic thinking is this?
If this the best argument you have, well nothing more need be said.
Is Glen Beck so blinded by his 30 pieces of silver that he cannot give a damn about Palestinian Christians? Or see how riduclous he looks comparing Palestinians to Nazi's, when Israel has the strongest military in the Middle East. Did European Jews have an army? The whole rant is riduculous, and anyone who thinks this helps the Zionist cause, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Why is this tagged "Arab Genocide, and Palestinian Genocide?"
Oh, and biggest hypocricy of Becks rant, is that he pretends that Palestine should not come into being because it threatens Israel.
That is not the real reason. The real reason is the Armgeddegon where CUFI is concerned.
In any case, Christian Zionism has been declining in the USA as Evangelicals turn left and are becoming better informed about the Middle East.
http://pewforum.org/Christian/Evangelical-Protestant-Churches/Global-Survey-of-Evangelical-Protestant-Leaders.aspx
The Pew Forum on Religion has published the findings of a major survey of the opinions of Global Evangelical Protestant Leaders.
Significantly, the survey found that only 34% say they sympathize with Israel. A majority say they sympathize either with both sides equally (39%) or with neither side (13%).
Among evangelical leaders from the United States, even fewer sympathize more with Israel (30%) while nearly half (49%) say they sympathize with both sides equally.
Similarly only 48% of the evangelicals say the state of Israel is a fulfilment of biblical prophecy about the Second Coming of Jesus, while 42% say it is not. This is perhaps an indication that evangelicals are increasingly better informed about the Middle East.
Chayma,
I'm not sure what the Beck post has to do with this one, but 'Palestinian Christians'?
You mean like in Bethlehem where the Christian population has gone from 90% to 20% since the 'Palestinian Authority' took over in 1994 and started systematically raping Christian girls? http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2007/12/plight-of-bethlehem.html
You mean like in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity where a group of 'Palestinian' Muslim terrorists desecrated the church in the name of Islam until the IDF was able to put a stop to it? http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2006/12/olmerts-christmas-present-to-bethlehem.html
Don't go there. Glenn Beck and all the Christians on this list know exactly who is responsible for the plight of 'Palestinian' Christians. And the only ones who blame the Jews are the PA-appointed Bishop Ikrima Sabry and the late Peter Jennings' girlfriend Hanan Ashrawi. Not exactly great company.
Carl
Don't go there. Glenn Beck and all the Christians on this list know exactly who is responsible for the plight of 'Palestinian' Christians.
That would be true if Palestinian Christians themselves say it.
Have you got anything? If so bring it.
Because I can bring you plenty of sources where Palestinian Christians blame Christian Zionism for prolonging the occupation and needless suffering. Why is this movement opposed by so many Jews? and the mainstream Christian Churches?
But even from your own point of view, tell me, what good has it brought Israel? It hasn't halted the call for a two state solution, it hasn't got any embassy to shift to Jerusalem. This was at the peak of their power (CUFI) which is now declining.
I'm curious about something, when Palestine comes into being, will these Christian zionists still be your "freinds", or will they as Max Blumenthal says (and everything he has predicted about Christian Zionism has come to pass exactly as he said) become the Jews biggest enemies?
Time will tell.
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