Olmert offers 91.5% of Judea and Samaria, 'Palestinians' say not enough
Despite some denials that have been coming in throughout the evening, it appears that Prime Minister Ehud K. Olmert has offered the 'Palestinians' 91.5% of Judea and Samaria, and has offered them land between Hebron and Gaza (for 'safe passage') in return for the rest. The 'Palestinians' have turned down the offer as not good enough. Palestinian officials close to peace talks said Sunday that Israel has offered a West Bank withdrawal map that leaves about 8.5 percent of the territory in Israeli hands, less than a previous plan but still more than the Palestinians are ready to accept.I'll comment. I don't see any reason to offer that much. In fact, it's suicidal, because somewhere in that 8.5%, just about every bit of what's left of the rump State of Israel - God forbid - will be exposed to 'Palestinian' terror attacks. Including the airport. So what the heck is Olmert offering them? By the way, this does not include Jerusalem, which they hope to agree on later.
Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat and other PA officials, however, told The Jerusalem Post that the report is unsubstantiated.
Also Sunday, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was quoted as telling backers that the negotiations have achieved no progress since they were restarted last November with a pledge to US President George W. Bush to try for a full peace treaty by the end of the year.
The Palestinian officials said that Israel presented its new map three days ago in a negotiating session. The last map Israel offered had 12 percent of the West Bank remaining in Israel. Israel wants to keep West Bank land with its main settlement blocs, offering land inside Israel in exchange. The land would be between Hebron in the southern West Bank and Gaza - at least part of a route through Israel to link the two territories.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are being conducted behind closed doors, said Palestinians were ready to trade only 1.8% of the West Bank for Israeli land.
Israeli officials refused to comment.
But 'moderate' 'Palestinian' President
Abbas indicated skepticism about the prospects of the renewed talks.Awwww....
"Nothing has been achieved in the negotiations with Israel yet," Abbas told a meeting of the Fatah Revolutionary Council, according to a report Sunday in the Fatah-associated al-Ayyam daily and confirmed by meeting participants.
Domestic issues in both Israel and the US are diverting attention from peacemaking, Abbas told Fatah leaders.
"I fear the (corruption) probe against Olmert and the American preoccupation with the (presidential) elections will negatively affect the negotiations," Abbas said, according to a member of the council, Salah Taameri.
The problem with these kinds of ridiculous offers is that even if the 'Palestinians' say no, they just become starting points for the next time. In fact, one of the reasons they are saying no now is because Ehud Barak offered them about 98% in 2001 at Taba (plus control of the above ground part of the Temple Mount and all the Arab neighborhoods in the Old City of Jerusalem) and they still turned it down. The 'Palestinians' figure there has to be a better offer on the way. And with Olmert negotiating with himself and the prosecutors, they are probably right.
posted by Carl in Jerusalem @ 10:43 PM
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The Palestinians figure Israel is conducting a going out of business fire sale... and with Ehud Olmert's neck on the political chopping block, all they have to do is sit tight to obtain 100%. Who is the defeated party and who is the winner? Treason is as normal in Israel as cowardice. G-d forbid it surpasses Barak's last "good" offer. If the bozos who run the country want to put all of it in firing range of the enemy, that's what is going to happen and it won't be a pretty picture.
The Creator has spoken on exactly what percentage of the disputed land of Judea and Samaria should be given up: 0%. Jerusalem: also 0%.
Offer them 0% They don't deserve more. And offering them more has only resulted in dead jews. Offer them less, and see if they get the message.
I would actually offer them a negative percentage of territory.
And 'no' is not an answer.
Our future soldiers in the IDF will have to fight the '67 war all over again. But this time around we'll be facing a war of annihilation with nuclear, chemical, biological and IDEOLOGICAL weapons in the hands of our enemies. The ideological part of that war has been ongoing and totally bought by the left wing.
My feeling is that Olmert, Barak and the rest of this irresponsible and clueless gov't and the left wing really haven't got beyond the galut mentality. Witness Meir Sheetrit's utterly stupid idea to beg Syria for a landlease deal on the Golan that belongs to US! Can't wait to see what that dingbat, or some other pinhead in the gov't comes up with for YESH and the rest of us.
Ashan, you're right. I really don't understand the National Suicide School. It looks like some people in Israel want to make sure the country isn't around for its 70th birthday. Listen - I am aware that Israel's enemies seek to wipe out the Jews. That doesn't mean Israel has to make it easier for them to achieve that aim.
They want everything! Peace will never happen unless Israel no longer exists. The issue is not another state for Muslims, but it is no state for the Jews!
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