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Monday, August 22, 2011

Glenn Beck has it right on the Middle East says...

Glenn Beck has got it right on the Middle East says... Barry Rubin.
Certainly, Beck makes silly mistakes on factual matters and details. Yet what’s important is that he comprehends the big picture. I don’t say this based on a superficial view or on his support for Israel. As part of the GLORIA Center’s project on understanding current American politics and debates I have monitored virtually every television and radio show Beck has done over the last two years. When people voice absurd and slanderous stereotypes about Beck, it turns out they haven’t actually listened to what he’s been saying.

Why has Beck gotten things right that so many others have missed or distorted? There are five key reasons: Common sense; courage; knowing the difference between right and wrong, willingness to learn, and readiness to admit when one has been wrong. These are virtues often lacking among those with more elegant reputations and impressive diplomas.

What has he gotten right?
Quite a lot of things. Read the whole thing. I especially want to call your attention to this one:
9. We must reevaluate friends and enemies in this new era of revolutionary Islamism and post-Marxist leftism.
In the past, Jews often saw conservatives and religious Christians as threats for good reasons. But we’re no longer in the nineteenth or even twentieth centuries. Conservatives and Christians aren’t drooling to convert, kill, or use Jews to bring on the apocalypse. That’s out-dated. While doing everything possible to work with liberals and social democrats, we must understand—whatever our personal political views—that Israel and the Jewish people have a new set of allies.

Why have these groups changed their views on Jews? With religion imperiled in the West, they see Jews as fellow believers rather than—as in past antisemitism—corrosive atheists and Jesus-killers. They see Israel as an embodiment of the nation-state and admire its ability to defend itself, rather than considering Jews to be cosmopolitan subversives and cowardly pacifists. Rather than view Jews as imperiling Western civilization, they view Israel as facing the same enemies they believe to be doing so today.

An important issue—in fact, the key test—was how conservatives would deal with the presence of so many Jews among their opponents. Historically, that situation was a prime factor in an antisemitic narrative on the right. The solution has been to perceive leftist Jews as traitors to their own Jewish people rather than to consider Jews as a whole to be the villain. Whether or not you agree with that assessment isn’t important in this context. What’s important is that this solves the political and religious right’s past inclination toward antisemitism.

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At 7:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carl, keep dreaming. Perhaps a kiss from Eisav will waken you from your deep schluf.

At 7:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


beck helps out israeli toursim, but is speaking to the same crowd that he would in america

and rubin is a bit off on his timeline

right up to the 80's, christian conservatives were declaring that jews were all going to burn in hell

im glad that they give support and monies to israel, but i still wont embrace them as friends

At 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

right up to the 80's, christian conservatives were declaring that jews were all going to burn in hell

Bacci40, and now they believe you're heaven bound?

At 11:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rubin lives in an ivory tower. For all his proclamations, he understands f*** all about the Middle East or the Muslim mind. Anybody who doubts that, only needs to go through his archives, and see how his predictions played out against what actually happened. Zero comprehension.

The 10 reasons he cites are easily rebutted, I can make mincemeat out of his reasons.

Back to the subject at hand, i've never received a coherent response to this:

Glen Beck and his ilk, claim that
"I will bless those that bless you",

If they really believe that, why don't they convert to Judaism?

At 5:42 PM, Blogger Moriah said...

If they really believe that, why don't they convert to Judaism?

We don't them to become Jews - good G-d loving and fearing Noahides would be better...

At 8:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Whether you want them to become Jews or not is irrelevant, it's not the point, nor was I saying you should ask them to become Jews. 500,000 of the American Jewish population are converts to Judaism. Those that really believe it's the way, will convert, not "bless" from afar whilst worshipping that which is considered idolatorous by those they are blessing.

The point is, if they believe in
"I will bless those that bless you" why would they not convert? Why would they remain as they are? Or are they blessing themselves really, since they believe they have the "only" way to salvation.


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