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Sunday, January 04, 2009

Why rockets are still being shot at Israel

There were nine rockets shot at Israel overnight.

Given that I reported that the IDF had control of the rocket launch pads in northern Gaza, why were rockets still shot last night?

Israel Radio's Nissim Keinan (their southern correspondent) reports that none of the rockets that were shot last night came from northern Gaza. They came from the Gaza City area.

And by the way, they just reported that the IDF has reached the area of the former Jewish town of Netzarim. They're in the process of cutting northern Gaza off from central and southern Gaza. If that sounds familiar, it should. It's what the IDF used to do every time the 'Palestinians' acted up in the days when we controlled Gaza. May those days speedily return. It's the only way we'll have quiet.

We just had a code red warning in Sderot.


At 8:43 AM, Blogger NormanF said...

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At 8:44 AM, Blogger NormanF said...

Carl - I expect Israel to maintain a permanent military presence in parts of Gaza when this operation is over, despite what Israeli politicians are saying, because no other country on earth will take Gaza off Israel's hands. Why on earth would they want to? The only way to prevent Hamas rocket fire from being aimed at Israel ever again is Israeli troops being stationed there. That among other reasons, is why a quick Israeli exit is not going to be in the cards any time soon.

At 9:09 AM, Blogger Naftali2 said...

Hey Norman,

I'm going to disagree again. The only reason that Hezbollah, for instance, could rearm is because of a willing tollbooth of Syria. I'm not convinced Egypt is like Syria regarding Iran. I think that there is more of a chance that Fatah will take control of Gaza after Israel completes its mission.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Israel picked up some intelligence before the airwar, that Hamas was planning an operation in the West Bank. In part, this could also be thwarting Hamas' plan to take over the West Bank.

Now, what's the difference between terrorist groups--not much. But Israel has pretty much neutralized Fatah. Plus, the world will be watching Fatah to get Gaza out of the 'humanitarian crisis'. In other words, Fatah might have some accountability that Hamas doesn't have.

The bottom line though, is that all battles in this 60 year war result in Israel getting the time and space to grow into an important society that contributes much to the world.

At 11:03 AM, Blogger NormanF said...


The flaw with your logic is the Gazans despise Fatah. It would have be imposed by force and I don't think they want to ride into power on the backs of Israeli tanks. And the rest of the world is not willing to assume responsibility for 1.5 million Arabs. They will be perfectly happy to have it be Israel's problem. That's why there is the difficulty of finding a security arrangement that would allow the IDF to leave the place. There isn't one and the only reliable guarantee is an IDF presence there which I'm sure Carl will tell you, no matter what Israeli politicians say, is the only solution in the cards that has any chance of success.

At 11:28 AM, Blogger Naftali2 said...


I know that Hamas despises Fatah and vice versa. I have no crystal ball, but I don't see Fatah having a problem coming in after Israeli tanks, you know, playing the role of savior. And if you want a group to 'once and for all dismantle Hamas', I can't think of a more eager bunch to do that than Fatah.

At 7:18 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

You mean the same Fatah that cut and ran in the face of the Hamas coup? Surely, you jest!

At 11:57 AM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...

NormanF and Naftali,

Recall the video that was provided to the House and Senate Foreign Affairs Committees last year of Egypt helping Hamas smuggle weapons.

Still think Egypt won't be a tollbooth like Syria?

Then what happens if the Mubarak regime falls and the country is taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood (not exactly unlikely)? Want to stake your security on that?

I didn't think so.


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