Schakowsky: In Israel when the doctors went on strike, the outcomes were actually better'
I don't know where she gets her information, but here's a video that discusses the possibility of doctors unionizing after Obamacare in which Representative Jan Schakowsky (D-Il) (also known as "J Street Jan") claims that the outcomes were actually better in Israel as a result of doctors' strikes.Let's go to the videotape. More after the fold (Hat Tip: Sunlight) (Sorry about the autoplay, I cannot resolve it, but it's short).
Warner Todd Huston comments:
This will completely end any chance that doctors will care about patients. They will instead become just another uncaring, slipshod union hack that won’t much care about the excellence of his work because he’s protected by union rules. Patients will no longer matter.I don't know where she gets her information, but it's complete and utter nonsense. Yes, we have compulsory health insurance, for which we pay about 5% of our income, and we have had it since 1995 or thereabouts. There's a three-tier system here: Basic health fund insurance provided by the health funds and paid for by the government with our 5% tax, enhanced health insurance provided by the health funds for an extra fee, and real health insurance provided by insurance companies.
Doctors will be just like officious DMV employees. Just like lazy Streets and Sans guys. Like all those little bored, arrogant placemen that work for government.
You, the patient, will no longer matter at all.
Welcome to Obamacare, folks. We’re all the victim of a death panel now.
Some of the health funds - which used to exclude people who were likely risks - are now going broke. The government mandates the services they have to provide but does not necessarily provide them with the funding to do so.
All in all, our socialized medicine system is better than England's or Canada's but that's because if you can afford to pay, you can still get things privately. But we're definitely paying more than we did in 1995.
Labels: health care, Israeli taxes, Obamacare
posted by Carl in Jerusalem @ 1:45 PM
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The Leftist Jewish politicians and organizations in the U.S. think they are pro-Israel bacause they like your socialist systems. They like what your Left wants for Israel (niceness by having civilians sit still under rocket and direct attack for over a decade.) These Americans want what Israel has (and the Euros, too, BTW) in the U.S.
"Some of the health funds - which used to exclude people who were likely risks - are now going broke. The government mandates the services they have to provide but does not necessarily provide them with the funding to do so."
There is sooooo little analytic summary info on these systems in the U.S. So if Germany cuts back on their medical benefits because the system can't sustain it, even smart PhD type people (one of my neighbors!) still wistfully advocates for the German system for the U.S. And doesn't know and refuses to believe that it is untenable. I'll search around for a health economics organization to see if there is some economist assembling this info. One huge factor is that something might work for a while with 8 mil people that is absurd to think about scaled to 320+ mil.
BTW, in Israel, is there a euthanasia track where if a poor person or a person without someone tracking things for them gets snagged in it, they'll be put down? (Ref: That other article I linked to you about the U.K. - the mirror image of rampant abortion.)
This is another reason that the 55% inheritance taxes that Obama and the #Occupy people want are BAD... because the govt has a conflict of interest if they want your money and they control access to medicine. They won't want you to spend that $$ on potentially life extending medical services. You're too old. Best to turn in your money to the govt with your euthanasia, rather than spending it on costly medical procedures. Disgusting. And presumably not in accordance with the Torah, but rather with Marx.
Sunlight,
There is no inheritance tax here, but only the 'tycoons' die rich.
Being a doctor here doesn't pay well except at the most senior ranks, but you also don't pay a fortune to go to medical school. University tuition here in the State universities is about $2,500 per year and if you maintain over a 90 average (quite difficult) it's free after the first year.
But where the health plan hurts is in things like hospital construction and occupancy rates. Our rates are way over 100%. People are 'hospitalized' in the emergency room and in the hallways for days. New hospitals are a rarity - I don't think there's been one in the 21 years I have been here although there is one hospital that closed down.
Critical care is top notch but most people don't have an annual checkup. Getting a referral to a specialist can also be quite difficult unless you've had something dramatic happen to you (God forbid).
We're a leader in medical device research because private enterprise can make a fortune selling them overseas. If you have an MRI, an Israeli company probably made the machine, but I think you can actually still count the number of MRI's in this country on the fingers of two hands (you certainly could a few years ago) and they tend to operate around the clock.
And we're also a leader in IVF. Because we're such a child-centered society, the government health plans will keep paying until you have three kids if you want that many (we average more than three kids per couple so I guess most people do).
Israel's green Start-Up people are lined up with the Obama $Billions, which are *not* awarded in competition, but through lobbying and through the existing competing competent technologies being demolished by EPA rulemaking. That non-American Way operation is tanking the U.S. economy, which I assume is a big part of what you are talking about when you say the private medical device research and manufacturing enterprises can make a fortune selling overseas...
When will someone in Israel defend their ongoing market based opportunities and tell these Peres New Age opportunists to Stop participating in the destruction of the U.S. economy? One Israeli said that they should just take the $$ as long as the Americans are dumb enough to elect these people, that it is like telling a kid not to take the candy that someone is handing them. Wow is all I have to say about that. Very shortsighted. And certainly *not* a two-way street on being "Pro-eachother". Both sides need a "Stand With" mentality from the other...
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