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Monday, July 25, 2011

A boost for the Islamists

The Norwegian terror attacks have turned into an excuse to beat up on conservative, anti-Islamist bloggers. In a disgraceful piece written this morning, the New York Times all but blames Robert Spencer, Baron Bodissey and Pam Geller for the Oslo attacks.
In the document he posted online, Anders Behring Breivik, who is accused of bombing government buildings and killing scores of young people at a Labor Party camp, showed that he had closely followed the acrimonious American debate over Islam.

His manifesto, which denounced Norwegian politicians as failing to defend the country from Islamic influence, quoted Robert Spencer, who operates the Jihad Watch Web site, 64 times, and cited other Western writers who shared his view that Muslim immigrants pose a grave danger to Western culture.

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In the United States, critics have asserted that the intense spotlight on the threat from Islamic militants has unfairly vilified Muslim Americans while dangerously playing down the threat of attacks from other domestic radicals. The author of a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report on right-wing extremism withdrawn by the department after criticism from conservatives repeated on Sunday his claim that the department had tilted too heavily toward the threat from Islamic militants.

The revelations about Mr. Breivik’s American influences exploded on the blogs over the weekend, putting Mr. Spencer and other self-described “counterjihad” activists on the defensive, as their critics suggested that their portrayal of Islam as a threat to the West indirectly fostered the crimes in Norway.

Mr. Spencer wrote on his Web site, jihadwatch.org, that “the blame game” had begun, “as if killing a lot of children aids the defense against the global jihad and Islamic supremacism, or has anything remotely to do with anything we have ever advocated.” He did not mention Mr. Breivik’s voluminous quotations from his writings.

The Gates of Vienna, a blog that ordinarily keeps up a drumbeat of anti-Islamist news and commentary, closed its pages to comments Sunday “due to the unusual situation in which it has recently found itself.”

Its operator, who describes himself as a Virginia consultant and uses the pseudonym “Baron Bodissey,” wrote on the site Sunday that “at no time has any part of the Counterjihad advocated violence.”

The name of that Web site — a reference to the siege of Vienna in 1683 by Muslim fighters who, the blog says in its headnote, “seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe” — was echoed in the title Mr. Breivik chose for his manifesto: “2083: A European Declaration of Independence.” He chose that year, the 400th anniversary of the siege, as the target for the triumph of Christian forces in the European civil war he called for to drive out Islamic influence.

Marc Sageman, a former C.I.A. officer and a consultant on terrorism, said it would be unfair to attribute Mr. Breivik’s violence to the writers who helped shape his world view. But at the same time, he said the counterjihad writers do argue that the fundamentalist Salafi branch of Islam “is the infrastructure from which Al Qaeda emerged. Well, they and their writings are the infrastructure from which Breivik emerged.”

“This rhetoric,” he added, “is not cost-free.”

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Mr. Breivik frequently cited another blog, Atlas Shrugs, and recommended the Gates of Vienna among Web sites. Pamela Geller, an outspoken critic of Islam who runs Atlas Shrugs, wrote on her blog Sunday that any assertion that she or other antijihad writers bore any responsibility for Mr. Breivik’s actions was “ridiculous.”

“If anyone incited him to violence, it was Islamic supremacists,” she wrote.

Mr. Breivik also quoted European blogs and writers with similar themes, notably a Norwegian blogger who writes under the name “Fjordman.” Immigration from Muslim countries to Scandinavia and the rest of Europe has set off a deep political debate across the continent and strengthened a number of right-wing anti-immigrant parties.
I understand that Melanie Phillips, Richard Landes and Phyllis Chesler are also mentioned in Breivik's manifesto. I can't link to the post that confirms that right now because Melanie Phillips' website has been attacked and is down right now.

Breivik did not specifically target Muslims, but the opportunists who would force their way of life on all of us are attempting to use this case as an instance of 'Islamophobia.'

None of the people cited in this article has ever called for or advocated violence. Unfortunately, others have used their writings as an excuse for it.

The picture at the top is Robert Spencer holding an Israeli flag in Berlin shortly after German authorities had removed one from someone's window.

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8 Comments:

At 7:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It never fails to amaze how quickly the haters accuse others of hate. They tired to do it to Sarah Palin after Tucson and now they do it to those who point out the obvious evil in Islamist supremacy.It just boggles the mind that the Left is made up of such fools. Do they not understand that the people they are advocating for would destroy everything that the Left holds dear?

 
At 8:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Norwegian terror attacks have turned into an excuse to beat up on conservative, anti-Islamist bloggers.In a disgraceful piece written this morning, the New York Times all but blames Robert Spencer, Baron Bodissey and Pam Geller for the Oslo attacks.

Anti islamist? I think not!

They are not anti Islamist! Geller and Spencer are anti Islam, and on the SPLC hate list, their SIOA is too listed as a hate group. They're hate mongers plain and simple.


The Anti-Muslim Inner Circle
Intelligence Report, Summer 2011,
Issue Number: 142

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/pamela-geller

Executive director and co-founder (with Robert Spencer; see below) of Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) and the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), an umbrella group encompassing SIOA. Both are listed as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). Runs the Atlas Shrugs blog.

Breivik did not specifically target Muslims, but the opportunists who would force their way of life on all of us are attempting to use this case as an instance of 'Islamophobia.'

He sees "marxists" which means liberals and leftists as being enablers of Muslims and enemies and being on the same side. It was a pure cold blooded calculation of his, he wanted a platform, and what better way than to kill children.

By the way, one of the Norwegian victims was a half brother of the Princess.

No different to Yygal Amir killing one of his "stupid Jews" (Rabin) for signing Oslo.

None of the people cited in this article has ever called for or advocated violence. Unfortunately, others have used their writings as an excuse for it.

One could retort that is because it is illegal to do so, as they would get a visit from the FBI, but in any case the incitement is there.

That said, the statement is not true, where Robert Spencer is concerned.He has called for a "crusade" against Islam.

 
At 9:44 PM, Blogger Juniper in the Desert said...

I noticed you post articles by someone called Brian of london. I was surprised because he writes propaganda for the EDL. He writes for their website and he worked in a research group. I was part of the Jewish division edl, before the nazis took over and I left. This is his comment beneath one of his articles:
"I grew up in England and two years ago moved to Israel (for Jews it's called making Aliyah). I've supported the EDL for a while and helped out behind the scenes writing articles and speeches. I tend not to talk about Israel when I help out the EDL unless I am asked specifically about it: in general there is far too much about Israel in the news in the UK"
Nice guy!!

 
At 10:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Juniper

You are confusing Israel Matzav with Israellycool. Brian of London is a contributor there, not here.

By the way, if you were part of the British EDL you're not a nice person yourself. They're under investigation now, and will proably be put on the extremist watch list as there are calls for that. Brievik claims to have links with them.

Tell me Juniper, what kind of a cause do you have, that even the EDL won't support?

 
At 8:24 AM, Blogger Donald Douglas said...

Nice writing .... linked over at my place.

 
At 12:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carl, I have 2 questions

The picture at the top is Robert Spencer holding an Israeli flag in Berlin shortly after German authorities had removed one from someone's window.

1. Do you think that if Robert Spencer were not paid $500,000 per annum from the Horowitz Foundation, he would be holding up an Israeli flag?

You know that he opposed Sechita, and said he would support a stun ban.

2. If the Horowitz Foundation suddenly withdrew all funds and financial support, do you think Robert Spencer would still be pro Israel?

 
At 12:26 PM, Blogger Lurking Apple said...

Chayma,

The SPLC is a hate group. It's worthless to ask them for an opinion on who else is a hate group.

http://unamusementpark.com/2011/07/the-splcs-crusade-against-white-rights-theory/
http://unamusementpark.com/2011/07/the-splcs-crusade-against-white-rights-examples/

 
At 3:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lurking Apple

SPLC is not a hate group. They rightly list your organisations as hate groups too, because they are racist.

I'm curious, why are you a white supremacist, reading an Israeli blog? What's your interest in Israel?

 

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