Peres pressures government to give Christian Holy sites to Vatican
Israel's President Shimon Perest has been pressuring the government to turn over six Christian Holy sites to the Vatican in honor of the Pope's visit to Israel later this month. The president on Monday continued to pressure the government to give up control of six sites including the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth, the Coenaculum on Mount Zion and the Gethsemane on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, and the Church of the Multiplication on the Kinneret.Uh, no Stas, we wouldn't. We're not going to get involved in the Church's theological arguments (I have to believe that non-Catholic denominations would object vehemently if we turned any of those sites over to the Vatican - and I assume my Christian readers will confirm that in the comments or tell me that I am wrong) and we're not going to turn over parts of the Land of Israel to anyone. Not even for "millions of Christian pilgrims" who are free to visit those sites right now.
"If we were sure that this present to the Christian world would bring millions of Christian pilgrims here, then we would have a good reason to think about it," Tourism Minister Stas Meseznikov was quoted as saying.
The Army Radio report also quoted the president's office as saying that the negotiations had been going on for long enough, and that the time had come to compromise with the Vatican and come to an agreement.Does Peres believe that any time negotiations 'go on for long enough' it means that Israel has to 'compromise' and give up its positions? I guess that explains this story.
And you Americans thought Biden was gaffe-tastic?
posted by Carl in Jerusalem @ 7:11 AM
9 Comments:
Israel is not a Christian country and has no business taking sides on Christian sites. That ought to be left for the Christians to work out among themselves. Shimon Peres of all people, should understand its not an affair for the Jewish State to concern itself with or to meddle in.
Norman is correct. In addition, if Peres wants to give away places to the Vatican, he should ask in return for Jewish antiquities, manuscripts and other valuables looted from the Jews and Eretz Yisrael and held in the Vatican archives.
Speaking as a Christian, I say: NO. Truth be told, this is not our land, it belongs to the Jew and more truly their land lies from the Nile to the Euphrates as promised by God Himself and this was not a conditional one, it is an unconditional (where God says "I will" and not based on human responsibility to Him) never ending promise that will one day be fulfilled when Messiah returns.
As a Bible-believing Christian...i.e., the kind that actually support Israel...HELL NO! this would be the beginning of the end, so it is prophesied. The land belongs to Israel alone, giving it up brings judgment (not to mention is pragmatically suicidal).
The Bible teaches that the coming world leader ("Antichrist") is driven initially by a one-world universalist religious movement that in the name of peace suggest marginalizing "extremists" (i.e., Bible believers/Zionists who insist land is Israel) for a lowest common denominator religion of humanism disguised as religion. This leader then confirms a slightly under 7-year covenant with Israel (Daniel 9:27), and the last 3-1/2 years are the "Time of Jacob's Trouble" when 2/3 of Jews die, though most of humanity dies during first 3-1/2 years.
You want Armageddon sooner, go right ahead Peres.
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Another Christian here that says "NO" to giving control of those sites to the Vatican. The land in Israel belongs to ISRAEL by covenant from God. Gentiles have no claim to the land, and Rome is Gentile.
Maybe Peres is just being smart and wants the Vatican to take over the expense and headache of protecting these sites from Islamic terrorists. The Vatican might become less sympathetic to the "plight" of Palestinians if they actually had to deal with them in a concrete way.
, too, as a Christian, would say, "NO". The sites in questions are available to visit, why "own" them? I can see it opening a can of worms among different Christian denominations if one were selected to control them. I trust Israel to look after the sites.
Rome wipes Israel off the map!(video I saw on YouTube today)
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