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Thursday, May 22, 2008

50,000 Arabs have left Gaza since last June

Suit-and-tie clad unelected 'Palestinian' President Salam Fayyad told a Bethlehem conference on economic development in the 'Palestinian' territories on Tuesday that some 50,000 Arabs have left Gaza since Hamas took over last June and many times that number would like to leave.
Fayyad linked the exodus to the fighting between Hamas and Fatah, which resulted in the Hamas take-over of Gaza and a sharp decline in international aid to Gaza. PA sources admit that the clash has caused a great rift among the Arabs of the PA-controlled areas (Gaza, Judea, and Samaria), weakened the PA's international status, shaken internal security - and brought about increased emigration.

Conference organizer Hassan Abu Libdeh agreed: "There is a Palestinian brain drain [a WHAT? CiJ] caused by the difficulties of living here," he said.

A year ago, in May 2007, the Mufti of Jerusalem for the PA, Sheikh Muhammed Amin Hussein, issued a religious ruling banning emigration from "the land of Palestine." Hussein acknowledged in his ruling at the time that many young Arabs are flooding foreign embassies in an effort to receive residency permits.
In April, I reported that some 80% of Gaza residents want to leave, but this is the first time that the 'Palestinian Authority' admits it. Of course, we have to keep in mind that this is Hamas' rivals speaking and they have an interest in making Hamas look as bad as possible. Still, I have no reason to doubt the report. In fact, I wonder what percentage of the Arabs in Judea and Samaria would like to leave. Don't expect anyone to tell us that one anytime soon.

50,000 in less than a year? Not bad.

24 Comments:

At 4:08 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

The only thing standing in the way of fewer Arabs in Eretz Israel are the bozos in the Israeli government.

 
At 4:33 PM, Blogger JG said...

Thinking of Rabbi Kahane OB"M; it's a start.

 
At 4:56 PM, Blogger Yishai said...

NormanF, please stop ragging on the government and other Jewish people in this and other posts.

 
At 5:11 PM, Blogger Yishai said...

Carl, contrast this news story with the amazing story of the Jewish population increasing in the border areas of Gaza. I'm sorry, but I couldn't find the link for that story, but it was withing the past few days.

 
At 5:14 PM, Blogger Ashan said...

Be careful what you wish for. If these Palithugs wind up in the Emirates or Egypt, that's just fine, but if they're heading for Western countries, this will exacerbate the problems there and return to smack us in the head.

 
At 5:38 PM, Blogger Kenneth said...

I'm waiting for this exodus of Palestinians to be called the New Nakba. Not likely.

 
At 6:34 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

Yishai, my criticisms are aimed at Israeli government policy. Which I happen to think gets in the way of making Israel stronger and more secure. If that was change, there would be a good deal more to celebrate. The people of Sderot and Ashkelon deserve better than to be on the receiving end of death every day. As I've said, a normal country defends its citizens without looking to the rest of the world to see if its OK. For most of Israel's history, in fact, Israel's leaders did just that and they should look out first for the welfare of the Jewish people instead of being concerned with what foreign potentates think of their policies.

 
At 6:43 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

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At 6:44 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

I thought its a positive thing Jews are settling in the Gaza border area. In my opinion and a lot of people don't know it, I felt for a long time the biggest mistake Israel ever made was to evict the Jews from Gaza. Hopefully, that mistake will one day be remedied. The larger point I want to stress is peace won't come about if Jews retreat from parts of Eretz Israel out of the mistaken belief it will allow them to hold onto what's left. The Arabs don't recognize even a tiny Jewish State. I'm on the record as holding that Jews should settle everywhere in Eretz Israel regardless of what Leftist Israelis and the rest of the world think. The more Jews throughout the country, the greater the prospects for real peace.

 
At 7:07 PM, Blogger Whaty What? said...

fayyad is not part of Fatah....

 
At 7:10 PM, Blogger heroyalwhyness said...

quote from the post:
"In April, I reported that some 80% of Gaza residents want to leave, but this is the first time that the 'Palestinian Authority' admits it. Of course, we have to keep in mind that this is Hamas' rivals speaking"

If 80% of Gaza residents (Hamas rivals) want to leave, then what possible majority voted for Hamas?

 
At 7:14 PM, Blogger Yishai said...

Thanks for that distinction, Norman. For the good of the Jewish Nation, let's keep discussions centered around policies and solutions, rather that attacking the people behind them.

 
At 6:04 AM, Blogger NormanF said...

Yishai, policy is personnel. When Ehud Olmert announces negotiations with Syria in attempt to deflect public attention from the investigation into his illicit dealings, it shows that Israel's Prime Minister is more than prepared to subordinate the national interest to his personal interest in his own political survival. In Olmert's mind, he and Israel are one and the same. So it wouldn't come as a great surprise, that if he goes down, he wants to take the country down with him, too. A man's character is just important as his policies. And in Olmert's case, both are to the detriment of the State Of Israel.

 
At 7:51 AM, Blogger Daniel434 said...

The point that Carl may be missing is that those who are leaving are most likely the Arabs who do want peace and do not want to conform to Islamic Fundamentalism while sending their children off to suicide themselves to kill Jews.

The ones who want to destroy Israel, they are staying. The most radical would not dare leave their myth of a homeland. They are brainwashed since birth and their mission is to defend 'Palestine' and destroy Israel.

Now if the post only read 50,000 Islam Militants from Hamas and Fatah left Israel...

Oh, and I do think Carl should be careful not to step over the line into a form of Arab antisemitism. Arabs are children of Abraham also. I only point this out because during the past few months Carl has (in my mind) switched from bashing Islam Militants to bashing Arabs in general.

 
At 4:13 PM, Blogger Yishai said...

Daniel,
You would too be wary of all Arabs if you lived in close proximity to them. Trust me. It is not racism, it is pure pragmatism. It's similar to not walking through downtown Detroit at 3am flashing c-notes. Is that racism towards blacks? No. It is simply watching out for yourself and taking care not to do something dangerous.

You do have a really good point about who is truly leaving Gaza. It's unfortunate, but the ones who are leaving have the greatest chance of living side by side with ISrael.

 
At 4:25 PM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...

Daniel,

Anti-Semitism is a term that refers specifically to Jews. At its web site, the ADL defines anti-Semitism as "The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish. It may take the form of religious teachings that proclaim the inferiority of Jews, for instance, or political efforts to isolate, oppress, or otherwise injure them. It may also include prejudiced or stereotyped views about Jews." The very notion that it refers to Arabs is a concept the Arabs themselves have introduced in the last 20-30 years. Historically, it's incorrect.

I don't believe that all or even most of those who are leaving would live side by side with Israel in peace. While nearly all the 'Palestinians' (and Arabs) hate us, that doesn't mean that they're willing to send their children to be suicide bombers. I suspect there are a lot of parents getting out because they don't want their kids to join Hamas and become bombers, but who would be quite receptive to engaging in conventional warfare where the idea isn't to kill yourself.

I also believe that many of those who are leaving Gaza are doing so because they're more secular and not willing to live in an Islamic Caliphate. Mubarak and Assad are both secular. They don't love us either.

 
At 3:30 AM, Blogger Daniel434 said...

quote/
"Anti-Semitism is a term that refers specifically to Jews. At its web site, the ADL defines anti-Semitism as "The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish."
/quote

Are not Arabs descendants of Shem, as well as the Hebrews? Maybe I am mistaken but I thought the descendants of Shem are 'Semites' and those descendants include Jews and Arabs. Am I mistaken? If not then Anti-Semitism is a term that can be applied to Arabs although mostly related to the Jews.

In fairness I have no idea what it is like to live in Israel under constant barrage, I probably would be wary of them too and I certainly don't mean any insult to you, Carl. This blog is one of my favorites and I check it more then LGF and HotAir combined.

BTW Carl, my previous nickname was kRoNiK.

Blessings,
Daniel

 
At 4:20 AM, Blogger Daniel434 said...

After more thought I realized that saying "a form of antisemitism" was incorrect and offensive, especially from a Jewish standpoint while applying the term to Arabs. I apologize. Regardless of the descendants of Shem the term should only be used for hatred of the Jewish people. I myself would never think of Anti-Semitism in terms of Arab hatred.

Also, I doubt you want to have a discussion regarding the genealogy of Shem, heh. Accept my sincerest apology, I meant well. Am Yisrael Chai!

Sincerely,
Daniel
Numbers 6:24-26

Sincerely,
Daniel

 
At 4:24 AM, Blogger Culture for All said...

@Daniel:

QUOTE:
"Are not Arabs descendants of Shem, as well as the Hebrews? Maybe I am mistaken but I thought the descendants of Shem are 'Semites' and those descendants include Jews and Arabs. Am I mistaken? If not then Anti-Semitism is a term that can be applied to Arabs although mostly related to the Jews."

Assuming that Arabs are actually decendants of Shem - Technically yes.

But words gain meaning not just from their academic root but also through their use throughout history.

Anti-S(h)emitsm was first introduced by the Germans to aid their delusional genodical pseudo-scientific Jew Hatred.

In Germany, Jews were so happy that they were finally being accepted by the nations that they did all they could to integrate into German society - even if it meant rejecting their age-old religious traditions (eg. See the formation of the Reform movement).

You can understand the problem for a pathalogical Jew hater. Since they are now integrating - how can you define them? What about non-believing Jews? They are still Jews. How can you identify these Jews so that no matter what they do - they will never fully integrate?

Enter: anti-S(h)emitism. The Germans coined that term to categorise the Jews as a fundamentally (biologically/genetically) inferiour racial group. This meant that no matter how integrated a Jew was - even if they no longer followed Judaism - they were still Semetic and had to be liquidated.

When you consider the fact that the Nazis were allied with Arabs during the war, notably the Grand Mufti Haj Amin Al Husseini (Architect of the Nazi Final Solution) - it is clear that anti-S(h)emetism was directed at the Jews.

Therefore while in academic terms Arabs speak a S(h)emetic language, anti-Semitism is a clear reference to pathalogical Jew Hatred.

Anti-S(h)emitism means hatred of Jews - I often just use the word Jew/Jewishness Hatred though.

Your etymology nit-picking argument is more-often-than-not just intended to make it more difficult for people to define hatred of Jews. This is just a worn out anti-Semeitic tactic designed to make it more difficult for Jews to contend with anti-S(h)emites (read: Jew Haters).

For example you will find nonsense like this coming from anti-Semites (read: Jew Haters):
"Arabs are Shemitic, so they can't be anti-Semetic - infact those Jews aren't even real Shemetic people becahse they are Khzars!"

As a result of the fact you produced that argument I have fair and justifiable suspicions that you are an anti-S(h)emite (read: Jew Hater).

Steven

 
At 4:35 AM, Blogger Culture for All said...

Daniel wrote:
"After more thought I realized that saying 'a form of antisemitism' was incorrect and offensive, especially from a Jewish standpoint while applying the term to Arabs."

You are correct.

Daniel wrote:
"I apologize. Regardless of the descendants of Shem the term should only be used for hatred of the Jewish people. I myself would never think of Anti-Semitism in terms of Arab hatred."

It is an especially sensitive topic because the Arab world is ripe with Jew Hatred (anti-Semitism).

Daniel wrote:
"Also, I doubt you want to have a discussion regarding the genealogy of Shem, heh. Accept my sincerest apology, I meant well. Am Yisrael Chai!"

I hope I wasn't too heavy handed above. Best wishes.
- Steven

 
At 4:43 AM, Blogger Culture for All said...

@Daniel:
Good point about the people leaving Gaza, and ditt on Numbers 6:24-26. :)

 
At 7:35 AM, Blogger M. Simon said...

Carl,

With no Jews in Gaza it can be slowly strangled. Transfer without Israeli troops going door to door.

Patience my friend. This is a good long term plan. Horrendous as the Jewish casualties are from getting out of Gaza it will pay off. And don't forget the lesson Bill Gates got.

 
At 7:37 AM, Blogger M. Simon said...

daniel,

anti-semitism was a term invented by Germans to specifically refer to Jew hatred. You can look it up.

 
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