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Thursday, April 26, 2012

Egypt to permit men to have sexual relations with their dead wives?

When I was in my first year of law school in 1980-81, we read a case called United States v. Thomas. The case was about two military men who rape a woman who turns out to have been dead. They are convicted because they had criminal intent. I thought of that case (and of a rather funny line that resulted from it in my law school class - which I will not repeat) when I read this story.

In Egypt, if the Islamist parliament gets its way, such a case would apparently not even be rape, so long as the woman has not been dead for more than six hours and the person having relations with her is (or was) her husband (Hat Tip: MFS - The Other News).
The controversy about a husband having sex with his dead wife came about after a Moroccan cleric spoke about the issue in May 2011.

Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.

Two years ago, Zamzami incited further controversy in Morocco when he said it was permissible for pregnant women to drink alcohol.

But it seems his view on partners having sex with their deceased partners has found its way to Egypt one year on.

Egyptian prominent journalist and TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty on Tuesday referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show on Egyptian ON TV and criticized the whole notion of “permitting a husband to have sex with his wife after her death under a so-called ‘Farewell Intercourse’ draft law.”

“This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?”
And believe it or not, that is probably the least harmful attack on women's rights proposed by the Egyptian parliament. Read the whole thing.

More here (Hat Tip: Memeorandum).

Aren't you glad that the Obama administration supported getting rid of Mubarak, and especially his 'evil' wife Suzanne who supported a woman's right to divorce?

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At 12:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like you neo cons started bashing Turkey after Erdogen dumped Israel, so now you start bashing Egypt for things you would have ignored had this fascist been in power.

and as for this:

especially his 'evil' wife Suzanne who supported a woman's right to divorce?

since Jewish women can't get a GET (divorce) from their husbands, unless it's a civil court, you have the audacity to laud Suzanne. Clean your own house out first.

Can your wife divorce you for example?

As for bashing Turkey and Egypt (now that Egypt is on the verge of tearing up the traitorous 'peace' treaty)

It's called the fatal attraction syndrome. Stop acting like the rejected lover/mistress/wife.

Neo con Zionists should learn to accept rejection with grace.

At 6:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, muslima biatch Chayma, drop dead and then go screw yourself.

I'm just staying on topic.

At 11:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ShyGuy, what are you for then?

Like I said, you neo cons need to start accepting rejection like men, instead of exhibiting the 'fatal attraction' symptoms.

Had this been under the Mobarak regime, it would have been swept under the carpet, just like the Armenian Holocaust only becaume newsworthy in the Israeli neo con crowd in the US AFTER Erdogen dumped Israel. Prior to that neo cons were complicit in covering up and getting it recognised for fear of offending Turkey.

Your whole cause is based on cheap relations of convenience, and not real friendships based on values and justice, and universal laws that most decent people follow.

At 2:33 PM, Blogger Empress Trudy said...

Chayma is right. I for one cheer their ever accelerating plummet all the way down into the dark abattoir of their dreams. We should be proud of their quaint and ancient indigenous customs. Necrophilia? Pish posh. I hope they embrace child sacrifice and cannibalism. I hope they reinstitute chattel slavery.

At 4:26 PM, Blogger upyernoz said...

the story is not true--or at least what you have written is highly misleading. egypt is not about to legalize sex with dead wives, nor are any of the major islamist parties in favor of such a measure. all you've done (although admittedly it isn't just you. it's pretty much all the bloggers who troll the internet looking for negative stories about muslims) is echo a single out of context line from an opinion piece by amr abdul samea, a mubarak stallwart who has every incentive to try to embarrass his political rivals.

At 4:36 PM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...

Empress Trudy,

They already have reintroduced child sacrifice. It's called suicide bombing.

At 7:14 PM, Blogger RobGinChicago said...

Good thing that the U.S. Obama Administration is ignoring Congressional concerns and is insisting on shipping several billion no-strings-attached dollars to Egypt to promote good government. I sure would hate to see what would legislation would come out of the Egyptian Parliament without all this U.S. provided boodle. The money will allow the Egyptians to hire a bunch of Cairo CSI officers, who can advise Egyptian husbands when their 6 hour time is up.

At 10:19 PM, Blogger Captain.H said...

During the height of the combat in Iraq against Al Qaeda and the Sunni minority's terrorists, there were a number of cases of them tricking mentally retarded children to wear a suicide vest, approach an American or Iraqi Army or Police roadblock, then they'd detonate the vest by radio.

One case that really stuck in my memory was in southern Iraq. A middle aged Iraqi couple had a Downs Syndrome teenage son. The Sunni terrorists cased the family, figured out when they'd have a couple of hours when neither parent was home. They used that time to knock on the door, push themselves in when the boy answered, trick him into donning the suicide vest. They then drove him to a nearby US/Iraqi Police checkpoint. They got him to walk towards the checkpoint. They then detonated the vest via radio. The Downs Syndrome boy was blown to shreds and a large number of Iraqi civilians, US soldiers and Iraqi police were wounded.

There you have it. While for example Israeli doctors, scientists and engineers develop great strides forward in medicine, technology benefiting all humanity, by contrast Arab Jihadis devise ever-worse levels of depravity.

At 10:03 PM, Blogger Sunlight said...

I remember reading that Mubarak's wife Suzanne was also working to get FGM halted. I guess that would have alienated 90+ percent, or something like that? Just read Winston Churchill's book called River War about Sudan. Gives an unfiltered portrait of the region when left to their own devices.

At 2:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again all lies. The Egyptian Embassy in London said this is nonsense.

Lies spread by the traitor Mobarak's regime, and his nefarious accomplices in crime, the Zionist scum suffering from The Fatal Attraction Syndrome, now that Egypt is about to dump Israel. More proof of how filth attracts filth. As if any cause built upon lies will last.

Zionism is doomed to nuclear destruction.

Anyone who knows Sharia law, knows that the body mustn't be touched and buried as soon as possible after the last rites (religious) have been performed.


Egypt's 'plans for farewell intercourse law so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives' branded a 'complete nonsense'


But sources inside the Egyptian Embassy in London have said the claims were 'completely false', 'forbidden in Islam' and 'could never imagine it happening'.

The source said the proposal, if it even existed, had not reached the parliament - although it was also admitted it could be the work of an extremist politician.

Although not officially rebutted, the claims that someone inside Egypt could introduce such a law provoked widespread scepticism.


P.S CaptH, yeah yeah, and the US lost the war in Iraq. 17 tirllion wasted. Your pagan god is dead,. You're probably too old realise your cause is a lost one, but I do hope you live to see the results.


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