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Wednesday, March 17, 2010

What the Evangelical Christian community did for us in this crisis

Jennifer Rubin reports on the Evangelical Christian community's reaction to the current crisis.
Christians United for Israel has swung into action; an alert went out to its very large mailing list (which includes pastors who in turn contact their church members)... What kind of response did they get? “Just 90 minutes after CUFI’s action alert was distributed, more than 5,000 of our members sent e-mails to the White House asking the president to ‘end this unnecessary crisis, return to a more productive approach, and stand with our ally Israel.’ As of last count we are averaging an e-mail every second, and I see no indication that this will slow down anytime soon.”

Many liberal, largely secular American Jews have been wary of, if not downright hostile to, evangelical support for Israel. Perhaps they should reconsider and figure out who the friends of Israel really are. They’re the ones sending, not receiving the e-mails.
Nice try Jennifer. The problem is that many of those liberal, largely secular American Jews couldn't care less about Israel. We're far down on their issues list.


At 6:25 PM, Blogger nomatter said...

That is so unfair. I know scores of American Democrats/Jews who are involved in letter writing campaigns! Carl there are thousands of middle of the road American Jews who are very displeased and worried about Obama.

Truly, this is nothing more than politics at it's very worst.

I read and read and read these blogs and never have I found an answer to the ulmost defening silence by them and the elite REpubicans Bush was in office.

Just because Obama is a hundred times worse does not negate for one moment much of what we see now is the result of what Bush started. Matter of fact when Bush formulated the quarted of three arch enemies of Israel, the liberal media applauded him. Ditto axing the embassy act, etc.

If you read what they both said at Aipac there were hardly any dissimilarities.

I found it almost as repulsive when Israelis were buying their dead Bush was suffocating the PA with billions of dollars as I do right now with Obama. You do understand the idea of laying the peace of the ME on Israel did not start with Obama, nor did contiguous viable Palestinian statehood.

I want people to scream bloody hell about how Israel is treated no matter if there President is of their political persuasion or not.

It is high time the pot stops calling the kettle black.

We knew this day would arrive and happen partially because of deafening silence during the Bush Administration.

Whoever is or was the worst diplomat or appeaser means nothing to me. This is not a game. The time to have spoken and be heard my party missed 8 years ago.

At 7:04 PM, Blogger Daniel said...

If the evangelicals were as numerous in1943,imagine how many gentiles would have joined the Rabbinical March. Far more than Jewish. Osaka and abortions are more important.

At 7:38 PM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...


If you go through the archives of this blog, you will find plenty of posts that were critical of the Bush administration and his last Secretary of State to whom I referred as Condi Clueless (an appellation I got from Debbie Schlussel). I started blogging in 2006, but that was enough time to rip Annapolis, for example, which I did. I know many others who did as well.

Bush had a period - roughly from the discovery of the Karine A in early 2002 through the issuance of his letter in 2004 in which he probably was the most pro-Israel President we ever had.

Sharon pushed for the expulsion of the Jews from Gaza, and Bush had much less taste for us after that. Most of his neocon crew (our supporters) was forced out around 2004 because of Iraq. Bush abandoned us completely after Olmert and Co. disappointed him by screwing up the Second Lebanon War (search "Wormser" on this blog to see just how badly) and then Bush got hit with the NIE on Iran in late 2007 which kept him away from us until the last few months of his term.

I don't believe he always did the best thing for us, but I believe that his heart was usually in the right place, certainly from early 2002 onward.

And compared to Obama, Bush was a saint. Obama hates us.

At 8:36 PM, Blogger nomatter said...

Carl, of course Bush was a saint compared to Obama. I never stated otherwise. However Bush was still a wolf in sheeps' clothing. He completely contradicted his friendship with Israel and did it with next to no re-recrimination in the Conservative Press.

There were a few blogs during that time that spoke out against Bush but never and conservatives of merit in the high rankings of the Republican party that would have made a difference.

There was extreme silence except from the left media who applauded him when each time he failed to sign the embassy act, when he spoke of contiguous and viable Palestinian state, when he spoke of settlement freezes, selling weapons to the Arabs against a previous agreement with Israel, formulated that filthy quartet to which Israel has suffered from extensively and most of all after his extensive whitewashing of Abbas for being a man of peace. (This too we suffered greatly for.)

Slapping down Israel was a way to keep the media off his back at a very bad time. It was a way to keep EU, Russia and the UN at arms length as well.(from criticizing him) We paid a deep price for that Carl. That price places us squarely for where we are today.

I harp on this all the time because my conservative base refuses to admit all this crap was a long time coming. I am sick of politics as usual. Truly, there would be no dance if not for appeasement and worn out diplomacy.

Bottom line, a conservative does not make for someone who might cross the line no no matter what political price he or she might pay.

Either you are for us or against us. There is no litmus test for that not in a lapel pin or a speech to AIPAC or a million promises all which break. The test comes when the deed is done.

I loath Obama deep in my soul but where we stand today has more to do with those who started it and the lies to which they must sleep with. None of them are my friends even if they are a zillion times better then Obama.

At 9:58 PM, Blogger Jeff said...

And what do YOU think of your Evangelical Christian friends?

At 5:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

im sorry, but any jew who isnt wary of evangelicals isnt much of a jew

so we should embrace people whose only reason for supporting israel is because they believe in a rapture that will either see millions of jews convert or die?

i think not

At 10:05 AM, Blogger Marylee said...

The ObaMAD Legend

Here's a suggested book title for anyone who will someday write about the hopefully short-lived, Obamaniac dictatorship:

"Double-Crossers, Cross-Dressers & Cross-Bashers"

(For more Obamania, Yahoo "Obama Avoids Bible Verses," "Obama Supports Public Depravity" and "David Letterman's Hate, Etc.")


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