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Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Ahmadinejad's imam on what's going on in Iranian prisons

If any of you has any doubt about the veracity of the reports coming out of Iran, please consider this discussion with Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi, who is considered Ahmadinejad's Imam, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself regarding the issue of rape and torture in Iranian prisons (Hat Tip: Puneet M; more at Memeorandum).

In the wake of a series of publications worldwide regarding the rape and torture of dissident prisoners in Iran's jails, supporters of Ahmadinejad gathered with him in Jamkaran, a popular pilgrimage site for Shi'ite Muslims on the outskirts of Qom, on August 11, 2009. According to Iranian pro-democracy sources, the gathered crowd heard from Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi and Ahmadinejad himself regarding the issue.


Asked if a confession obtained "by applying psychological, emotional and physical pressure" was "valid and considered credible according to Islam," Mesbah-Yazdi replied: "Getting a confession from any person who is against the Velayat-e Faqih ("Guardianship of the Islamic Jurists", or the regime of Iran's mullahs) is permissible under any condition." The ayatollah gave the identical answer when asked about confessions obtained through drugging the prisoner with opiates or addictive substances.

"Can an interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain a confession?" was the follow-up question posed to the Islamic cleric.

Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The necessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner. If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it's acceptable for someone else to watch while the rape is committed."

This reply, and reports of the rape of teen male prisoners in Iranian jails, may have prompted the following question: "Is the rape of men and young boys considered sodomy?"

Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: "No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape."

A related issue, in the eyes of the questioners, was the rape of virgin female prisoners. In this instance, Mesbah-Yazdi went beyond the permissibility issue and described the Allah-sanctioned rewards accorded the rapist-in-the-name-of-Islam:

"If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."

One aspect of these permitted rapes troubled certain questioners: "What if the female prisoner gets pregnant? Is the child considered illegitimate?"

Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The child borne to any weakling [a denigrating term for women - ed.] who is against the Supreme Leader is considered illegitimate, be it a result of rape by her interrogator or through intercourse with her husband, according to the written word in the Koran. However, if the child is raised by the jailer, then the child is considered a legitimate Shi'a Muslim."
'A great religion and its commitment to justice and progress'?

I wonder what the Imams at Obama's iftar would have had to say about this? Anyone think they would not have approved? If not, where is their condemnation?


At 7:08 PM, Blogger Chrysler 300M said...

I am afraid, we have to nuke this place sooner than later

At 11:16 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

Islam means being able to commit crimes and receive absolution for them. What a principled and enlightened religion. At least it makes no apologies for the crimes!

What could go wrong indeed

At 9:05 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

I've read quite a few scurrilous stories by Muslims addressing abuses by Jews, such as kidnapping and sacrificing Muslim children for ritual sacrifices. All of which I chalked up to slander, promoted by not so ignorant people to propagandize their own constituency.
Now reading this shocking story, I have to ask myself, is this too fiction, promulgated by those trying to demonize their opponents. This story is just too horrible. And the audacity of an Imam to publically advertise such barbarity is beyond understanding.
Is there any way to prove such a speech was given and the subject matter is true? I really want to know...
Paul S.


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