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Saturday, April 25, 2009

'This two-state solution is nonsense' says... Mike Huckabee?

Shavua tov, a good week to everyone.

Now that he's no longer running for President (or is he?) Mike Huckabee seems to get it (Hat Tip: Hot Air).
Mike Huckabee stakes out a position well to the right of both parties in an interview with an evangelical magazine:
WORLD: What about Israel and the Palestinians? Any hope there?

HUCKABEE: I've been to Israel 10 times; I've also been to virtually every other country in the area. This may put me in such a small minority, but I think this two-state solution is nonsense. If we're trying to get these two warring factions to occupy the same piece of real estate with two political entities layering over each other, that's absurd. We wouldn't tolerate it and they're not going to tolerate it. We shouldn't try to prolong the sense of that happening. [Israelis] not only have a right to existence, which is a fundamental agreement dating back to the early 1900s in the Balfour Declaration, but a right to a secure homeland. The tiny sliver of real estate they occupy, surrounded by people who are hostile to them, is really a very vulnerable place for them. Hoping for this two-state solution is simply not practical.
Hmmm. Well, you all know that I agree with him.

This actually is not the first time Huckabee has made a statement like this. This is from August 2008:
"It is a historic reality that Jerusalem, and the entire land, was originally intended to be a homeland for the Jewish people," he said. "The Palestinians should in fact have a place and opportunity to settle but it doesn't have to be in Jerusalem."

Palestinians demand all of east Jerusalem including the city's holy sites as capital of their future state.

Huckabee said that US support of Israeli territorial compromise was misguided.

"Sometimes politicians get wrapped up in what we can achieve rather than what we should achieve," he said.

At an overlook of the Old City and east Jerusalem, the former presidential candidate also said that Israel needs to distance its enemies as much as possible.

"If someone has a bomb or a missile or a gun pointed within a few feet of me I would want them to be as far away as possible," he said. "You don't have to be a military genius or strategist to know this."
Here's what he said (and what I said about it) in December 2007 when he was still running for President):
I felt better about Huckabee when I started to look for his position on a 'Palestinian' state reichlet (recall that I said in August that it wasn't mentioned) when I found this in a report of a campaign appearance in New Hampshire in October:

In response to a question about the Middle East from Rabbi Moshe Bleich of the Wellesley-Weston Chabad Center, Gov. Huckabee expressed frustration with Israeli politicians who wanted to give away the Golan Heights and firmly opposed dividing Jerusalem.

When asked about a Palestinian state, Gov. Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives, noting that the Arabs have far more land than the Israelis and that it would only be fair for other Arab nations to give the Palestinians land for a state, rather than carving it out of the tiny Israeli state.

Gov. Huckabee, who has visited Israel nine times, also expressed support for moving the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and stressed the importance of making America energy independent in ten years for both environmental and national security reasons. “We just can’t continue to be dependent on Saudi oil,” explained Huckabee, “I want to be able to tell the Saudis that we need their oil about as much as we need their sand.”

I think the Saudi desert will freeze over before Saudi Arabia or Egypt gives a grain of sand to the 'Palestinians' for their reichlet.
It actually sounds like his position has been pretty consistent, doesn't it? Is he ready to stand up to the Arab countries and tell them to deal with their own problem? If he is, he could have my vote. And that may matter more than you think, because right now the toughest matchup for Barack Obama in 2012 isn't Sarah Palin... it's Mike Huckabee.


At 11:22 PM, Blogger Abu Yussif said...

so no 2 states. are you saying you want 1 state, continued occupation, or what?

At 5:38 AM, Blogger NormanF said...

Avigdor Lieberman, believe it or not, has echoed Mike Huckabee in an interview given to an Austrian newspaper. It so happens the PA is very upset!


At 7:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abbu Yussif, you are a propagandist. The only "occupation" is by the Arabs of Jewish Land. Even your silly Koran says G-d gave Israel to Jews, but theives have no honor, and so they will turn against even their own professed "beliefs" and "ideals," if they stand in the way of booty they lust for.

At 8:05 AM, Blogger Daniel434 said...

Sometimes Huckabee dissapoints me with certain statements, but most of the time I find myself agreeing with him and not because we share a similar denomination of faith. I actually wish he were secular and held these beliefs because then he would garner more votes. Nonetheless, good find Carl. I have not seen this anywhere else. My main source of news: FOXNews + Israel Matzav :)

At 8:15 AM, Blogger Debbie said...

They already have a two-state solution - Jordan is 77% of the former British Mandate Palestine. If they don't want to live under Jewish sovereignty - they can go live there.

At 10:35 AM, Blogger Abu Yussif said...

ytba - seeing how you know so much about the koran, i'd suggest that you stop reading it. it is making you embarrassingly hysterical like those mosque preachers.

ok then: are you saying you want 1state, continued status quo, or what? (does that rephrase of the question soothe your feelings now?)

important question, are you gonna answer it now?

At 4:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abu (whom I believe YTBA misunderstands), speaking for myself, 2 states. One on this side of the Jordan, the Jewish State, and one on the east side of the Jordan, currently the country called Jordan.

At 9:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...continued status quo, or what? Abu Yussif

We've already a precedent for moving entire populations. We totally evacuated Gaza, turned it over to your buddies, and got hell in return. Now it's time to move some Arab populations, if they don't want to live peacefully under Jewish rule.

Israel took the Jews who were forced to leave their homes in Arab lands where they had been for hundreds, and sometimes over a thousand years. Don't Arab countries have the same compassion for THEIR "brethren?"

We aren't occupying a single thing. It's our Temple Mount, and Our "West Bank" (Judea was the portion of Judah, from which it gets it's real name).

It's our Land, and however G-d is going to make sure the killers are removed, I don't know, but He will, as He has promised us. And when people like yourself, who have supported those who murder us, come and say "we're sorry," it will be too late. Your chance to do what's right is now. Use it, or lose it.

As to the Koran's message on Israel, Sheik Palazzi makes it clear, that even it says Israel is Jewish Land. (not that I need your book to validate my claims, but merely to show how treacherous you are.)

Bottom line, we are back to stay. Deal with it.

At 10:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At 10:40 PM, Blogger Abu Yussif said...

ytba - a little secret... i'm not muslim. and i'm pro-jewish state. (don't tell anyone 'cause i don't want you to feel embarrassed for showing yourself ignorant.)

shy guy - then you'll effectively have a 2-state solution, just a different, more serious varaition since the new jordan/palestinian hamas kingdom would be much more problematic than anything seen yet. that sounds like the worst of all possible worlds.

we can all dream our dreams, but the political reality of israeli elected policy makers is quite monolithic, wouldn't you say?

At 10:08 AM, Blogger Abu Yussif said...

so my comments are now banned?

At 11:03 AM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...

Abu Yussif,

Your comments are not banned. The only way I can keep spam off here without going over every post (more than 8,000 now) every day is by moderating all comments on posts that are more than a day old. That's what you hit against.

But I don't understand why you object to Shy Guy's two-state solution if you say that you favor the Jewish state. Do you really believe we would be better off with a 'Palestinian' state among us than with having a Jordanian/Palestinian state across a natural barrier?


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