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Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Bibi: 'Stop Iran or I will'

The Atlantic's Jeffery Goldberg got an interview with Binyamin Netanyahu just before the latter was sworn in as Prime Minister on Tuesday, and Bibi shot a message straight as an arrow to US President Barack Obama. "Stop Iran," said Netanyahu, "or I will" (Hat Tip: Memeorandum).
History teaches Jews that threats against their collective existence should be taken seriously, and, if possible, preempted, he suggested. In recent years, the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has regularly called for Israel to be “wiped off the map,” and the supreme Iranian leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, this month called Israel a “cancerous tumor.”

But Netanyahu also said that Iran threatens many other countries apart from Israel, and so his mission over the next several months is to convince the world of the broad danger posed by Iran. One of his chief security advisers, Moshe Ya’alon, told me that a nuclear Iran could mean the end of American influence in the Middle East. “This is an existential threat for Israel, but it will be a blow for American interests, especially on the energy front. Who will dominate the oil in the region—Washington or Tehran?”

Netanyahu said he would support President Obama’s decision to engage Iran, so long as negotiations brought about a quick end to Iran’s nuclear ambitions. “How you achieve this goal is less important than achieving it,” he said, but he added that he was skeptical that Iran would respond positively to Obama’s appeals. In an hour-long conversation, held in the Knesset, Netanyahu tempered his aggressive rhetoric with an acknowledgement that nonmilitary pressure could yet work. “I think the Iranian economy is very weak, which makes Iran susceptible to sanctions that can be ratcheted up by a variety of means.” When I suggested that this statement contradicted his assertion that Iran, by its fanatic nature, is immune to pressure, Netanyahu smiled thinly and said, “Iran is a composite leadership, but in that composite leadership there are elements of wide-eyed fanaticism that do not exist right now in any other would-be nuclear power in the world. That’s what makes them so dangerous.”

He went on, “Since the dawn of the nuclear age, we have not had a fanatic regime that might put its zealotry above its self-interest. People say that they’ll behave like any other nuclear power. Can you take the risk? Can you assume that?”

Netanyahu offered Iran’s behavior during its eight-year war with Iraq as proof of Tehran’s penchant for irrational behavior. Iran “wasted over a million lives without batting an eyelash … It didn’t sear a terrible wound into the Iranian consciousness. It wasn’t Britain after World War I, lapsing into pacifism because of the great tragedy of a loss of a generation. You see nothing of the kind.”

He continued: “You see a country that glorifies blood and death, including its own self-immolation.” I asked Netanyahu if he believed Iran would risk its own nuclear annihilation at the hands of Israel or America. “I’m not going to get into that,” he said.

Neither Netanyahu nor his principal military advisers would suggest a deadline for American progress on the Iran nuclear program, though one aide said pointedly that Israeli time lines are now drawn in months, “not years.” These same military advisers told me that they believe Iran’s defenses remain penetrable, and that Israel would not necessarily need American approval to launch an attack. “The problem is not military capability, the problem is whether you have the stomach, the political will, to take action,” one of his advisers, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told me.
Read it all. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there is a possibility that sanctions will work and that they have not been fully tried. However, I believe that there is no longer enough time to try them, and that in any event, the Europeans, the Russians and the Chinese have not shown any willingness to play along with serious sanctions of Iran (recall, for example, this story from yesterday morning). Unfortunately, Israel is not in a position to wait for the world to get its act together anymore.


At 11:16 PM, Blogger NormanF said...

A pity. If there were concerted sanctions against Iran, it would have enough pressure against the regime to hasten its downfall. But since it isn't going to happen, the odds are good Israel will act soon. The danger is less that a nuclear Iran will destroy Israel outright with a nuclear weapon than it will be able to frighten the Jews to desert Israel. There are ways of destroying a country's will to live without necessarily dealing it a military death blow.

That its why Israel considers so important to stop Iran before it has a nuclear capability. Israel cannot live with a nuclear Iran. The Obama Administration has now received advance notice of Israel's intentions regarding the matter.

At 11:47 PM, Blogger Bret said...

Good luck.

Israel will be totally on its own as long as BHO is in the White House.

At 7:54 AM, Blogger hahahawtf said...

"The danger is less that a nuclear Iran will destroy Israel outright with a nuclear weapon than it will be able to frighten the Jews to desert Israel. There are ways of destroying a country's will to live without necessarily dealing it a military death blow."

Kind of like what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians. No need to kill the population to take the land, simply make life suck for them and they'll leave on their own. If Israel has a problem with Iran, let them deal with it. We already gave Israel billions of military aid to build an army, America should not be doing the dirty work of another nation.

At 8:07 AM, Blogger masyus said...

We are witnessing the ROOT CAUSE OF TERRORISM. Israel reign of terror and
destruction.Israel have violated over 60 UN resolutions,defy the Human Rights Commission,violated the Geneva Convention,defy the IAEA,
defy the World Court Hague,
hampers humanitarian aid, shot at Red Cross work,send tanks fired missiles at civilian areas,cut over 1.7 mill olive trees,destroyed civic infrastructure,
bulldozed destroyed over 60 thou homes, etc etc. Hizbullah was created after the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Israel invaded Lebanon 7 times, In Palestine, the longest barbaric occupying force in modern history, Israelis savage barbaric actions in the name of their own survival and right to exist, derived from its Torah visions.
All this brutality becuz eons ago… an old bearded on a mountain told them ‘this is the promised land and chase the others away… whewww.
The Torah scripture’ was written by fallible humans ”When you cross the Jordan into Canaan, drive out all the
inhabitants of the land before you … Take possession of the land and settle in it, for I have given you the land to possess.”(Numbers 33:51-53)
Justification enough, for the Israelites to to act with religious fervour.this source texts creates barbarism and a troubled world.
they often contain violent, xenophobic statements - often presented as being the divine will. The source of statements such as “I will do to you what I plan to do to them” and demands to drive out or destroy other people is clearly human, not divine.

At 8:10 AM, Blogger Don T. said...

Why doesn't Isreal just shut the !*@k up and do it?????

At 8:11 AM, Blogger masyus said...

The reason for Arab Iranian angry response against Israeli violence is simple: The Israelis have been systematically repressing and brutalizing hundreds of thousands of Arabs and Palestinians on a scale unparalleled since World War 2.
Israeli violence brutal, devastation of property which is simply unfathomable.
ALL of the victims are civilians not military.
For years, we in America have supported Israel both financially and militarily
because we perceived they were the innocent victims of hostile and violent
Why would rational human beings, given a choice, choose to attack their neighbors rather than live together in peace? The Israelis, the US media and Jews politicians would have us believe that the Arabs are simply not rational.
They routinely tell us that Arabs are “religious fanatics” who “hate freedom” or 'hate our way of life” to quote George W. Bush.
These arguments are fallacious and intellectually bankrupt.
The Israelis lives on brutal violence and murder, they refused PEACE:

At 8:16 AM, Blogger masyus said...


Myth 1 :Israel and the West eternal request that Palestinians renounce violence.
A: When will Israel ever renouce violence and return to be the peacemonger… never, they will live and survive by the guns.

Myth 2: Israels is in danger surrounded by hostile nations.
A: Egypt and Jordan have singed peace treaties and over 7 Arab nations are pro-US. For the last 40 yrs the Arab League have no stomach for another war and neither are they prepared for one.

Myth 3: Israel is the only democracy in the MidEast….so what? In democratic
Israel theres numerous undemocratic practices of dispossesion and denials,
gestapo like arrests and detention.
A:Besides monarchy theres nearly halfdozen Arab nations, ncluding the Paes with recognized free n fair elections.

Myth 4: Israel demanded the Pales to recognize their right of existence….. strange… considering the Israelis never have an any desire to recognize the Palestinians rights to even exist as humans.

At 8:22 AM, Blogger NormanF said...

That's right - the world expects Israel to do all the giving and the Palestinians to continue to do all the taking. Except Israelis are worn out by the all the talk of peace. They know it will never happen. A former Lefty, Amnon Rubinstein speaks for most Israeli Jews on the country's dark mood:

My Own Humanitarian Crisis

The author notes the virtual siege Israelis are under is one in which Jews live under the daily threat of being murdered or disappearing like Gilad Shalit and there is no hope it will ever be lifted. And he adds in passing that Iran's threat to obliterate Israel with nuclear weapons is given scant attention by human rights activists in Israel and in the West. That is to say - none at all. It just reinforces Israelis' sense of total abandonment by the entire world to their fate.

Read it all.

At 8:23 AM, Blogger masyus said...

"Zionism is far more dangerous to the safety of the Middle East than Islam,"
historian Ilan Pappe says.

Greedy conservatives in Israel want all Arabs dead and they want all their land.
Israel is the Swastika, Israel is a plague on all, the Zionists who
would turn the West Bank into their own Treblinka, Belzec or Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Shalom! to the Nazi Party of Israel, the murdering Zionists who have no
link to true Judaism, just the parts where they rip open the wombs of the women and spear the children and burn the men.

Israel, a nation based in terror and Apartheid. And they blame the ones they
enslave and steal from as the evil ones.
Israel stole the 1967 Land and started the first wars to steal more land.

I guess God's Chosen People are on the warpath, again, to steal the land GOD
HIMSELF promised to them, and ONLY them. Three thousand years of intermittent war and they STILL haven't pulled accomplished their ethnically "pure" state.

Israel is cleary a criminal regime. conducting genocides and massacres., while they are running a PR campaing protraying themselves as victims! We give Israel 3 billion a year in military aid, and they turn around and use it to kill innocent civilians! Hoepfully, God will bring justice oneday cause American sure can't, the whitecaps in Tel Aviv decides who sits in congress.
So this is where Bernie Madoff's $50,000,000,000 went off to! Israel to buy and drop bombs!
The Serbs, Nazis and Japs cause WW1 & WW11, the extremists Jews will cause WW111.

At 8:37 AM, Blogger masyus said...

Are the above passages anti-Semitic?
Matthew 27:25 is assumed to be anti-Semitic, not to mention absurd, because it has the Jews voluntarily accepting the blame for Jesus' death (for the context of the passage, see Matthew 27:15-26). As for its absurdity, we ourselves make similar statements today. One can readily imagine someone commenting on a trial and saying, "I'll be damned if he's innocent." Does the speaker really mean that they will accept eternal condemnation if they're wrong about the guilt of the defendant? Of course not - and neither did the crowd that called for Jesus' death. The statement in Matthew is most likely recording a common form of hyperbole, not the crowd's admission of guilt.

As for the other passages, one must distinguish between what they are and are not saying. They are saying that people who reject Christ are rejecting both God and the provision he's made for the forgiveness of their wrongs, and will therefore be condemned. They are not saying that all people born to Jewish parents (or parents of any particular race, for that matter) are condemned. God's judgment is not based on biology or other factors outside an individual's control, but on the individual's choices. Those who choose to accept Christ as their God and accept the forgiveness he provides will be spared punishment, regardless of whether they were born into a Jewish or Gentile family. Those who reject Christ will be condemned, again regardless of their ethnic heritage. Hence these passages are not referring to all Jews as a racial group.

On the other hand, the above passages and others in the New Testament do say that those who are religiously Jewish, i.e. who practice Judaism and don't believe Jesus is the Messiah or Son of God, will be condemned. Is this anti-Semitic or a bias against Judaism? Actually, this is no different than Judaism's condemnation of those who reject Jehovah[1]. Is Judaism racist or prejudiced for condemning those who don't believe in it? No, for it is condemning those who wrongly reject God and do evil. The basis for salvation or condemnation in Judaism is one's choosing to follow or reject God, just as it is in Christianity.

Some will object that the passages refer to "the Jews" and not to individuals, implying that Jews in general are being condemned. To clear this up, one should review the surrounding context of the verses. For example, in John 8 Jesus was speaking to a specific group of Jews, "the Jews who had believed him"[2] and who attempted to stone him once the conversation was finished.[3] In 1 Thessalonians 2, Paul was referring to Jews who had rejected God and resorted to violence, broke the Law by committing murder and the cause for Jesus' death

Matthew 23:35 (also Lk 11:50-51)
And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

Matthew 27:25

All the people answered, "Let his blood be on us and on our children!"

John 8:44 (also Rev 2:9)

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire.

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last.

Revelation 3:9

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars - I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

At 8:45 AM, Blogger masyus said...

Evils, Atrocities and Injustices of the Torah, lists of sadistic acts that are commanded, allowed, or threatened by God and his “righteous” men. All of these verses can be found in the Torah.
God created us with instinct, rebellion, and curiosity. Soon he punishes us for only doing what is part of our nature. Genesis 2:16.47

Genesis 7:23 He killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.

Genesis 19:23-25 God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual.

Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and that the Lord slew him. Er was wicked in the sight of the Lord. Genesis 38:7

Exodus 12:29 God repeatedly tells Moses exactly what calamity he will next visit upon the Egyptians if the Pharaoh does not allow the Israelites to be set free from slavery. Then he tells Moses (also repeatedly) that he will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will refuse to allow the Israelites to go, thus bringing a calamity upon his own people, as well as showing him the awesome power of the Israelites’ Lord. This occurs over and over, bringing calamity upon calamity upon the Egyptian people. What is troubling about this verse is that when god “hardens the pharaoh’s heart” he is interfering with the Pharaoh’s free will and ultimately bringing punishment on the Egyptians for something they are not responsible for. As a final punishment god decides to kill all the first born of Egypt. The lord reduced himself to murdering innocent kids when he could have simply freed the Israelites himself with his “omnipotent” power.

God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations. Punishing a child for the sins of their ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7

God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them. Exodus 21:2-6

God sanctioned the selling of ones daughter. How can any being tell another to literally sell their child into slavery? Disgusting! Exodus 21:7

Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon - “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

Whewww, the Jewish relious extremists ruleeees.

At 8:53 AM, Blogger Hee Wei Han said...

I am neither an Israeli nor a Palestinian. I am not even an Arab. But I consider myself a human being. To see a group of humans killing fellow humans in the name of religion or even lands is definitely a difficult pill to swallow. Sad to say, on the moment, Israel is doing more of the killings compared to Iran. The golden question that everyone is actually asking, will the killings stop if there is actually a nuclear-capable Iran?

At 9:04 AM, Blogger masyus said...

One of the biggest lies ever spawned is the lie that the jews are God's chosen people. If the jews are God's chosen people, we Christians should all close down our churches and go join the synagogues. Any person who say that the jews are God's chosen people is, in effect, denying our Lord Jesus Christ and calling Christianity a fraud. Such a person is insulting God. According to the Holy Bible, Christians are God's chosen people, not the jews. the Bible and read Titus 1:13-14 which says, "This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." Revelation 2:9 quotes our Lord Jesus Christ as saying, "I know that works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
The First Epistle General of John, Chapter 2, verses 22-23 say: "Who is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-christ that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." The jews do not acknowledge Jesus Christ so they have not the Father and therefore could NOT possibly be God's chosen people. The jews are anti-christs.
The jews are not the chosen people.
Romans 9:13 quotes God as saying, "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." Christians are of the house of Jacob which is the house of faith, whereas the jews are of the hated house of Esau, the house that God Himself hates. The jews have always hated Christians.
The jews have always encouraged rulers to murder Christians, as recorded in Acts 12:1-3 which says: "Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. And because he saw it pleased the jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. Then were the days of unleavened bread."
Acts 13:50 says: "But the jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts." Even in the 20th century, the jews use the same methods against us Christians.
Our Lord was crucified by the jews at the time of Passover. The jewish mob caused a riot and tumult to force the Roman governor to allow the crucifixion of the Son of God. They raised the horrible chant to let him be crucified. The jews took the responsibility for the murder of Jesus when they said, "His blood be on us, and on our children." The Christ-hating jews of today are as guilty as those of two thousand years ago. 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 also say that the jews killed Jesus Christ when it says, in part, "the JEWS WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us, and they please not God, and are contrary to all men."
The jews have infiltrated most churches and are now trying to get church organizations to contradict the Bible by saying that the jews had nothing to do with murdering Jesus. Regardless of their lying, they can't change the truth in the Bible which say that the jews killed Jesus. The jews still hate Jesus with a consuming hatred.

At 9:20 AM, Blogger alex said...

If these quotes are accurate they are pretty disturbing. To suggest that a million Iranian lives were lost after Saddam invaded Iran in 1980 without "batting an eye" is not only inaccurate, but shows lack of insight into that conflict and the hardships that were tolerated by the Iranian people during that war and in its aftermath. Does Mr. Netanyahu believe that Iranians should have surrendered when they were attacked by Saddam Hussein? His language is hateful at best, and is only deemed "acceptable" in the post-9/11 climate.....I wonder what his ancestors who perished in the holocaust would have thought about his ideology.

"...... it will be a blow for American interests, especially on the energy front. Who will dominate the oil in the region—Washington or Tehran?" Silly Rabbit do you think Israel and the US have a god-given right to control Iran's Oil. You do, don't you?

Several years ago under a more moderate Iranian regime (khatami) I heard the same rhetoric from the American Jewish Lobby..."Iran is the most dangerous threat to the state of Israel and to humanity...." this is nothing new. Even the German chancellor was quoted as saying the Iranian government poses the greatest threat to the planet in the history of humankind." This is from a woman who works in government offices once occupied by Adolf Hitler......Does this make sense to anyone?

Unfortunately for Bibi, even Bush had enough sense not to go down this road with Iran. We have more important problems to deal in this country. And if you want to go it alone Bibi, don't forget what happened to the israeli army in Lebanon. your soldiers put their guns down and ran away like little girls....

At 9:46 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

Well lets see what happened in this region. Bush and Co. wanted their pipeline in Afghanistan.. they got it. They wanted Iraq. They wanted to get Saddam. They wanted somewhere for there 40,000 ME police I mean troops who just got kicked out of Saudi Arabia to go. Check. Now they want Iraqs Oil, problem is Iraqs neighbor seemed to look out more for those in power now then bush's dad did. Remember the shia revolts that bush sr. allowed saddam to put down. Yeah see how that can bite u in the butt? So Iraqs gov is with Iran, afghanistan is uncontrollable (duh it Afhganistan). Most oil in Saudi Arabia are in shia areas of the country, bahrain has a large shia community as well as an american base. Washington wants control of Iraq internal affairs (oil) but Iran has the power. So what are they gunna do. Saudi Whahabbi are scared they will lose power to a resurgent Iran. Will they help US, Israel go to war? Probably. Israel seems pissed that Hez wooped her in 06. She took it out on the pal. a couple months ago. You know to remind everyone that they have guns to. Its invincibility has been questioned. Iran... o iran. What are they doing. Talkin mess to Israel (to gain support on the arab st.) , Israelis think Iran needs a nuke to take them out? nope Iran could wipe out israel with its chemical weapons. Iran with a nuke would garuntee no nation would attack Iran with nukes. This is about a group of ppl, in europe, us and israel who want to control the energy resources of the region. This isnt a holy war, or ethnic war, its economics. Remember last war in leb, pipeline opened the same day the war started? Yea and you all think its crazy muslims fighting crazy jews... man its rich ppl sending you idiots to kill each other to keep their profits up, world pop down, and fear control over the rest of you. None of these ppl are stupid. They look stupid because you all have been mislead into believing they want a two state solution, or they are looking out for israel hah, they are looking out for their wallets. Thats why nothing ever makes sense because they tell u one thing while they are working on different goals. If they really were worried about Irans nuke program why didnt they engage iran when Iran offered to stop enrichment, recognize israel, stop support of hamas and hez mil. and work to help us in Iraq and more in Afghanistan? Because nukes arent the issue the issue is who controls caspian/iraqi/iranian oil and the pipelines that connect them to europe , india and china. Dosnt that all make a little more sense then IRAN WANTS TO WIPE OUT ALL THE JEWS!!!!! yea because thats crazy talk.

At 9:49 AM, Blogger dude101 said...

Attacking Iran has been in the making for quite some time by the Israelis. It wants total control of the Middle East and Iran stands as the only obstacle. Israeli politicians sold the sympathy card to everyone by taking a quote out of context "...Israel will be wiped out from the face of this earth..." What the Israelis and the western propaganda machine doesn't want the rest of the world to know is that that quote was part of a comment made by the Iranian leader referring the free elections in Israel. If Israel was a real democracy then it should grant every Israeli citizen the right to vote including Palestinians who live in Israel. If that were to happen, the state of Israel as we know it today will be "...wiped off from the map..." meaning that the demographic shift of such voting power will go to the Arabs-not the Jews. This is way different than the distorted lies about killing all the Jews as the previous quote implied.

Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty-which grants it the right to use nuclear power. Israel never signed it and has nuclear weapons. It has threatened time and again to use nuclear weapons against Iran.

The real terrorists are the Israelis who committed crimes against humanity and genocide. It's time for the world to acknowledge the real threat to global peace. Ironically, one way to achieve peace in the Middle East is for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. It is a necessary deterrent in the face of such uncontrolled Israeli aggression.

At 11:39 AM, Blogger bombi said...

Masyus seems to be a crazed, obsessed fanatic. Who cares what the Bible says - accepting the Bible as fact makes all world religions absolutely criminal, especially Christianity and Islam since those religions mandate that all others of other religions convert, while judaism makes no such demand at all, and the people who actually abide by the codes in the Bibles, murderers.
In Israel, people don't kill in the name of God or the Torah, (except the 4/5 that actually assassinated their own leaders, not Arabs), while the jihadists blow themselves up to gain access to virgins in paradise. It has been said that maybe this whole suicide thing would not be so attractive if only these poor boys would get laid once in a while, and that in fact it's really nothing to do with politics,...
Dude 101 - next time inform yourself before you post crap: Here is the EXACT quote of your veneered Ahmadenajad:
"Anybody who recognises Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury, [while] any [Islamic leader] who recognises the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world."

Here is another quote, that has nothing to do with elections, since ALL arab citizens of israel, ALL 20% of the them, are allowed by law to vote in the elections. And if you had any clue you would know that there are arab/palestinian parliamentarians in the knesset.

Almadinajad again:
"There is no doubt that the new wave [of attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from the face of the Islamic world." Recalling the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, leader of Iran's Islamic revolution, he said: "As the imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

You people posting your comments need to really educate yourselves on the intricacies of these issues and stop spewing impassioned nonsense fueled by your personal hatreds of Jews.

At 12:17 PM, Blogger masyus said...


Full democracies are political systems that allow majorities to rule and
minorities to thrive. What makes a democracy shine is the exercise of compassion in the protection of its minorities.
What good are democracies when they oppress their minorities?
How righteous are nations which snatch land across their borders?
For how long can states rely on wars and oppressive ocupation to achieve security?
This country has five million Jews ruling mercilessly over five million Palestinians.
Half a million Israelis live illegally on Palestinian land; Israeli ettlements are continuously expanding in violation of international law.

Israel have becomes more ethnically exclusive, territorially colonial and
morally self-aggrandizing.

Insecurity breeds insecurity. By occupying more land and displacing more people. The rising of FASCISM in Israel, of Avigdor Lieberman explicitly advocates Arab ethnic cleansing.
“It was an outrageous, abominable, hate-filled campaign, brimming with incitement that, if left unchecked, could lead Israel to the gates of hell.”

The silent majority in Israel seems to be comfortable with the occupation.
the hold of moral taboos on people may relax, fear-based rationalization
may trump morality and hostile action may replace tolerance.

Israelis need to be rescued by the international community from a hole they have dug for themselves through occupying people they cannot force to disappear.
Palestinians too, need to e “treated” for chronic political self-injury and for a mindset in their leadership which sees “victory” in failure. The Palestinians may try to liberate themselves by force; but the use of force against an occupier who is supported by a superpower has proven clearly to be counterproductive.


At 12:34 PM, Blogger masyus said...

ISRAEL HAS RIPPED-OFF BILLIONS FROM US IN FREE TRADE DEAL, Israel’s government abuses FTA with US and Americans lose billions in revenues and thousands of jobs

FTAs are supposed to help American businesses improve their profits,
create more jobs and open new
markets for export.

Israel lobbied for a bilateral Free Trade Agreement with the US in 1984 and it was approved in 1985. But since then, Washington DC based Institute for Research: Mid East Policy (IRmep), the United States has lost more than $71 billion in the deal and the equivalent of an average of 100,000 jobs in each of the past 10 years alone.

Worse, IRmep Director Grant Smith explained , is the trade secrets
provided by American businesses to negotiate a favorable program have been
obtained by Israel’s government and by AIPAC, Israel’s powerful lobbying
organization that silences Israel’s critics in American business and in the
United States House and Senate.

“The US government solicited confidential business information from affected businesses and trade associations to share their trade secrets, market share,
and other sensitive information with the US government to negotiate the best

Since the agreement was ratified, Smith says, US industry, counter espionage
agencies and the US Trade Representative (USTR) continue to combat the misuse of
intellectual property of US companies obtained by Israeli companies exporting to the world, and preferentially to the US market.

According to the American Coalition for Fair Trade to be
filed April 6, 2009, the trade deficit with Israel continues to increase at a
great cost to the American people,
the American worker and US businesses.

The US-Israel FTA imbalanced trading relationship and produced an ever-widening trade deficit to the United States. Translated into American jobs by the standard input-output method, the US-Israel FTA has been
disastrous for American workers. In 2008, the $7.8 billion US deficit with
Israel was the equivalent of 125,663 American jobs.
But, the FTA and WTO intellectual property provisions were not properly
monitored and enforced, thus the agreement produced a one sided benefits.

Additionally, Israeli companies benefitting from the Free Trade Accord are in fact engaged in construction and maintenance of Israel’s illegal settlements in the West Bank, fueled by revenue from US tariff free sales! this in violation of international law and US policy.

At 2:46 PM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...


If you're actually in America, I'm the Pope and you need to get a life.


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