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Thursday, February 12, 2009

Just like us?

This video is a bit graphic. It's straight from the busy streets of Gaza and it shows thugs from Hamas breaking the knees of someone they don't like. Not with machine guns this time. With a club. Note all the children in the background when the camera pans the crowd. What kind of lessons do you think these kids are learning from watching the proceedings?

Let's go to the videotape. It'll be interesting to see if my newly arrived troll comments on this one.

Allahu akhbar, eh? Anyone still think they're just like us? I didn't think so.


At 11:39 AM, Blogger sassinfras said...

i wonder what this guy did to be tortured like this. was he a member of fatah planning a violent coupe, or was he a collaborator working for israels intelligent service.
israel also tortures many palestinians to get infomation ,as does the USA with gitmo. what about all the palestinians held for months /years only to be released with no charge.
the arab regimes who pratice torture can now say 'they are just like us'.

At 1:50 PM, Blogger What is "Occupation" said...

dear sassinfras...

hamas murders women who are caught without a male escort...

as for torture by israel? dont you understand? many palestinians WANT to be arrested by Israel where they actually have access to education (college), food and are protected FROM Hamas....

your sad attempts to defend hamas proves to me that you in fact should move to the gaza strip as soon as possible....

please move there...


put on a nice bag over your head and beat tied up prisoners in the street...


and someday soon, when you least expect it?

someone will accuse you of being a spy and toss your sorry ass off a rooftop.....

At 2:58 PM, Blogger heroyalwhyness said...

Now consider Obama's Prsidential Decree: Massive Immigration of Hamas Refugees from Gaza

Copy/paste of comment at IBA:

[Federal Register: February 4, 2009 (Volume 74, Number 22)]
[Presidential Documents]
[Page 6115]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]

Presidential Documents
[[Page 6115]]
Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27,
Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs
Related To Gaza

Memorandum for the Secretary of State

By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and
the laws of the United States, including section
2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of
1962 (the ``Act''), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I
hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the
Act, that it is important to the national interest to
furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to
exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency
Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose
of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration
needs, including by contributions to international,
governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and
payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of
Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department
of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian
refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.

You are authorized and directed to publish this
memorandum in the Federal Register.

(Presidential Sig.)

Washington, January 27, 2009
[FR Doc. E9-2488
Filed 2-3-09; 8:45 am]
Billing code 4710-10-P

At 3:52 PM, Blogger Unknown said...


Your comment shows the danger of moral equivalence. The Palestinians "torture" by throwing people off the roofs of tall buildings, shooting their legs, breaking kneecaps....in other words, death or serious permanent injury. In Gitmo, highest level prisoners were waterboarded, something that US troops go through as a regular part of their training anyway. And the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yielded information that saved the lives of an estimated 3,000 to 5,000 people, by thwarting the 2005 planned attack on 5 airlines crossing the Pacific.

And yet I remember reading a comment about this somewhere that stated that since we "tortured", we were just as bad as the murderous mastermind.
So..a person who dribbles water up a mass murderer's nose to save lives versus the evil person who plotted to murder 3,000 to 5,000 people--some people actually think they are on the same level!

If we take this moral equivalence to the personal level, then every single one of us (including you!) has to live an absolutely blameless life! Impossible. We can't ever say anything rude, unkind or mean (even unintentionally) to another person, we can never lose our temper or be angry, or gossip.......because GASP......if the other person KILLS us, it's okay! We were mean...then they were mean back. It's all the same.

So spare us the moral equivalence crap!

At 4:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


What did he do? Why, the worst crime of all! He was a wedding singer. Well, that, or he was just some poor schmuck off the street they picked because they just needed to keep in practice.

And NOTHING like that is done by Israelis, or at GITMO, you raving delusional ignoramous.

The point is that not only are those people not like Israelis, they are NOT LIKE ANY OTHER PEOPLE ON THE PLANET! NO ONE ELSE IS COLLECTIVELY THAT EVIL, period!

At 7:26 PM, Blogger sheik yer'mami said...

Its already gone.

Taken off because of "user violations"- they're watching you, Carl. Youtube is aiding and abetting Islamic terrorism...

At 7:51 PM, Blogger Gaia said...

The video was removed..
Can you please post it again?



At 8:28 PM, Blogger Python said...

Take it over to Live Leak , or Eye Blast , those dumb Bitches over at YouTube are all pro jihad , I thought you knew that by now.

If it were Israelis doing a crime in the Film , They would have have left it up and passed it on to Keith Ohlberman .

At 9:22 PM, Blogger Elder of Ziyon said...

YouTube took down the video and temporarily suspended me (two violations in six months.)

Here it is on LiveLeak:


At 10:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

elder of zion...dont wait for the account to come back...it never does

i had an account from opening day, posted a clip that youtube and lionsgate deemed to be copywritten material...and was removed

as for what went on at gitmo..it was a little bit more than just waterboarding, and we only have the word of the bush administration that it truly accomplished anything

this is the same administration that considered a guy who wanted to take down the brooklyn bridge with a blowtorch, a terrorist

At 10:28 PM, Blogger Gaia said...

To of Elder of Ziyon:

Thanks for your response!
I am a fan of yours, reading you same as Israel Matzav always.


At 10:53 AM, Blogger Carl in Jerusalem said...


Or maybe he was just a Fatah supporter.

Israel does not break people's legs in the middle of public streets. Neither does the US.


I covered that story a long time ago here.


You're so right. Unfortunately, the current administration in Washington agrees with Sassinfras. I hope it doesn't cost any of us our lives.


I'm putting the video back up with the LiveLeak link. Thanks for letting me know.


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